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Thursday, June 01, 2006

Arsenal at it again.

The worlds filthest club may finally get caught. Dvaid Dein has had conflicts of interest for years and we all know our history at what the scum did at the end of the first world war to get themselves into the top division. Corruption ran throughout Highbury back then and it now appears to be doing so again.

www.bbc.co.uk/newsnight

has the full story and it makes fascinating reading. The scum are now claiming that nothing illegal has gone on but for four years they claimed, when asked, that they had no financial relationship between themselves and a small belgium club called Beveren. However it has now been proven that they had with a Belgium magistrate saying that the go between between the scum and Beveren was little more than a puppet of Dein and scum FC. Why lie if there is nothing dodgy going on.

Wenger is also on record stating that the filth have never had a financial arrangement with Beveren. Why is Arsene lying as well? What is going on? Something dodgy has happened and the scum have been caught. The FA will have to investigate and it will have to be independent because otherwise Dein will create some cover up in one of his many roles in the FA. FIFA are now also looking into it. If found guility, and I hope they are, the penalties could be massive and it couldn't happen to a nicer club. What goes around comes around.

COYS!

109 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

going by precident.....relegation.

11:19 PM, June 01, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

5 years ban from europe. Goodbye Henry and Wenger! Champions League
here we come!

11:22 PM, June 01, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ha ha ha ha ha ha...did you see the newsnight report you are so deluded if you think anything is gonna come out of this story.. I can understand though how much it hurts you to see us succeed whilst you fail time and time again...

11:23 PM, June 01, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

those ******ing scummy *****. I hope they get what they deserve. Strip the squad of every player except for youth team and reserve players. I hate the scum so much!

11:25 PM, June 01, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Imediate relegation meaning spurs get promoted to fourth and champs league football right away.

Dein and wenger are the two biggest liers in the prem. I bet Arsen will just say he did not see it.

11:26 PM, June 01, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a Spurs fan, have been for over 40 years, but I still fail to understand the need to be so insulting to Arsenal. The level of toilet language around them by Spurs so called fans, always leave me wondering why you bother.

Respect them, they have acheived wonderful things that we can only envy.

As for the story, rubbish, get over it

11:27 PM, June 01, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yep there screwed if found guilty of thi, the problem they have is both wenger and dein aare on record stating they had nothing to do with the belgian outfit, now there admiting it, thats why fifa will look at closer, theyve gained an unfair advantage over other clubs in signing there players by way of a loan through a third party who so happens to control the belgian club

11:29 PM, June 01, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

as proven on tv, the story has no bearing.
SO fellow Spurs fans. We got nothing on them.
It is like saying Jol did something illegal when he bought Davids then if he sells him for 1K, that 1K profit is illegal.

no substance and again we got nothing to cheer up about

11:30 PM, June 01, 2006

 
Anonymous yid said...

relegation for the wankers

11:30 PM, June 01, 2006

 
Blogger ParkLane67 said...

Exract from the Newsnight site reads:

Fifa President Sepp Blatter told BBC Radio Five Live "Let Arsenal give the Football Association their report. It will be then be reported later to Fifa but for the time being I am not in a position to make any comments about what punishments or sanctions should be taken against a club."
-----------------------------------
You can bet that the FA will do absolutely nothing - or perhaps do their best to bury it - Dein's influence is everywhere!!!

11:34 PM, June 01, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what due mean we have nothing on them, your right mate, its fifa that will have something on them, as you are not aloud to control another club directly or indirectly, its up to arsenal to proove that the payment they made had no bearing on players they conviently signed in the futuer, they basicly use the belgian club to bring players from the ivory coast to the eu, and have now been caught giving giving out loans to control that club there by having first refusal on there players, which breaks fifs rules

11:35 PM, June 01, 2006

 
Anonymous yido!! said...

40yrs my arse! i can smell a gooner from a mile away, because there full of s**t. Same old Arsenal always cheating! First of all you buy Beveren which is known as cheating... then you buy Eboue who likes to have a little cheat himself....

11:35 PM, June 01, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well I have been a supporter for 60 years and saw my first game 59 years ago. I agree toilet language should not be used. I would not sully toilets or toilet language with that lot. There is no language that befits the degeneracy of the Scum, but let Dein and Wenger sink in the morass that befits them, and lts see their so called fans lose their gloating grins.

11:36 PM, June 01, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

gypo's vs crystal palace
gyo's vs grimsby
gypo's vs millwall
.......................
lmfao

11:39 PM, June 01, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is fantastic we all knew that arsenal; have been up to no good, this has been going on for years and ill tell you the fa will run with this and we all no that arsenal have the contacts in the fa.
the lot of it stinks the fa & arsenal. if found guilty it will have to be relegation but we all no that, will not happen because both arsenal & the fa are corrupt.
it can only be FIFA & EUFA.
and your right what goes around comes around, history as told us about arsenal, and our time is coming and when it does it will be even sweeter.

Park Lane Blue COYS.

ps!! we must keep this running dont let them get away with IT.

11:39 PM, June 01, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

speaking of toilets, spurs know a lot about that
from their sickness they invented to their potty mouths
agreed?

11:39 PM, June 01, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It doesnt matter if they are guilty or not, nothing will happen, if it was a smaller club it would, but Dein has to much power and he will use it, because of him i doubt it will be pursued or it will be buried, again!
Nobody from a single club should have the power over the rest, thankfully Levy has scruples, and does things the right way instead of breaking laws.

11:43 PM, June 01, 2006

 
Anonymous Rhyle said...

What the hell are you lot talking about? Do you even understand the implications of the allegations should they be proved?

At this stage there are just allegations...joe bloggs has basically shown Newsnight a document with David Deins signature on it concerning a payment (some might say LOAN) to one of the people at the top of Beveren.

While I struggle to believe that Arsenal have broken the rules rather than bent them, as an Arsenal fan I think it's strange that Beverens youth policy changed so rapidly at a time coinciding with this payment...maybe due to some encouragement from Arsenal to get young African players a work permit to play in the UK via the backdoor. If this bears out to be true then there should be sanctions but it's not exactly match fixing is it?

I'm afraid the most you lot can hope, and not because of anything sinister, is a ban on transfers for a season, a watchful eye on Arsenals future dealings and a hefty fine. This is known as the punishment fits the crime. Relegation? As I said, we haven't been fixing matches...and I'm really interested in knowing where this so called 'precedent' that one of your oh-so-brave anonymous posters made stems from. There is no precedent for this.

Get a grip...The only way into the Champions League is to earn it. Get the chip of your shoulders and start looking how you can sort yourselves out on and off the pitch. It's not our fault you had twenty years of poor management and administration, nor is it some David Dein is really one of them David Icke lizard people conspiracy theory.

By the by...the only person connected to Arsenal who has been found guilty of any wrong doing in recent memory is George Graham. We got rid of him because of it. You lot then gave him a job.

12:05 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Blogger Fuzzo Yiddo said...

I cannot deny that I am taking extreme delight in hearing this story in such high profile, but its sad that we are getting our enjoyment in watching the possible fall of Arsenal in this manner. It would be so much sweeter if we earnt the right to gloat by beating their sorry arse's. Dein will bury it though and a quick buck here and their for Fifa officials will make it all go away.
If if they get caught for it, there wont be relegation. Just a fine and maybe, but less likely, being kicked out of the CL.

Arsenal have always been corrupt so this is nothing new. They will never get caught, their too big with too much influence in the right places.

A good point to make here is that these days Chelsea got away with bungs n' tapping up even though we got fined and docked points back in the 90's. Was there a difference in the two scenarios? No. Only Chelsea offer better profits for English football, therefore must be wrapped in cotton wool. Its the same with Arsenal, with more cotton wool.

12:09 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nothing illegal has actually been done. It would be interesting to see what came to light if they investigate Chelsea and their web of clubs.

Acutally doesn't Joe Lewis have stakes in various other clubs, like Rangers. Is that "illegal" too? To be honest - it's a nothing story.

12:09 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

40 & 60 years F****off do you no your history.
see the arsenal still looking on the spurs web you losers you really are wankers.
but in some ways you are right i can see why (KEEP LOOKING OVER YOUR SHOULDER) we will always be there and you no it.

PS! did you see the real football factory on bravo TOTTENHAM THE REAL FIRM.

12:10 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'its up to arsenal to proove' typical scum crap. You're stark staring potty, the burden of proof lies on the acuser you prat.

You tried to cheat your way into the CL once and everyone had a good laugh at your expense, you simply haven't got a fucking clue.

Neither the FA or FIFA have anything to investigate, because no rules have been, manipulated, bent or broken. The only investigation will be into which idiot at the BBC sanctioned Newsnight to make the corporation an even bigger bunch of jerks than usual.

12:14 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Blogger Rhyle said...

'look over your shoulder we will always be there'

I doubt if any of us Arsenal fans could have put it better..!

12:17 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you spurs sound so desperate. like little children wanting someone to get in trouble. blind hatred of the Arsenal and clutching at any old straw to prove theyre no good doesn't earn you any respect. where's your pride? stop whining and play football.

12:17 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Blogger manic637 said...

You lot are f*****g pathetic! The only way you can be better than us is to hope that an independent inquiry relegate us. Bunch of jack c**ts! Well, bring it on! If the FA dare relegate us it will make us stronger and more determined than you could ever imagine.
By the way, since when has the precident been relegation? Chelsea get found guilty of wrongdoings every month and they have never been relegated! We are not Marseilles!
Idiots!

12:27 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

see the arsenal on the site again, have you got nothing better to do, is your site shit! you south london muppets.
cant hope to see you at spurs next year,
but maybe just maybe we may see you at your home ground, if you turn up you dont usually.
same old spurs always taking the piss.

12:34 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Blogger Microraptor said...

I work at the BBC an dI've worked on Newsnight -- an dI even know the producer who made the film. Sorry Tots but if you look at th elanguage employed

"Fifa has launched a probe into WHETHER Arsenal have broken regulations which MAY leave the club exposed to POSSIBLE expulsion from the Champions League."

...You will see that it has a number of heavy qualifications in the text. In journalism it is all about making your top line as strong as possible, and this is NOT a strong top line. Interesting story, though, but I very much doubt that you'll get any joy out of it at all.

If you wnat to be in the Champion's League, play better over the course of a season -- and stop blaming all Spurs' problems on David Dein's conspiritorial contacts with the Illuminati and Opus Dei - cos it makes you all look silly.

12:40 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hate arsenal the club & its so called fans!!
BUT i have to agree we do not need help from any football body i would like it to be done on a football pitch over 38 game, lets face it we are better than them at everthing else,
arsenal have just been a better footballing team than us for some time but we are getting there.
COYS

12:49 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Blogger Rhyle said...

The reason Gooners are on here? It's the latest in football hobbies...

Yid fishing. Bait 'em, hook 'em...reel 'em in.

Don't worry though...it'll soon be 2011...I gather you win some cup or other in years that end in 1. Or at least you used to.

12:57 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two points that seem to keep coming up - Toilets and Lies. Mmmm, which club recently made up a story about food poisoning/a case of the runs that turned out to be a virus? Sorry, what was that? Can't remember their name? Ohh, that's right the team that finished 5th - Lasagne Hotspurs!

1:07 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cant see anything happening to the Sh*tarse as dein will cover it up!!!!

1:08 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ENIC control 29.9% of shares in Spurs, 43% of AEK Athens, 11.8% of FC Basel, 20.2% of Glasgow Rangers, 96.7% of Slavia Prague and 99.9% of Vicenza.

1:13 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To all you of Arsenal fans, you can moan all you want at us Spurs fans but your club must answer the Newsnight allegations to Fifa.

1:16 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And Arsenal have already answered it you dumbass...there is absolutely no basis to these allegations, no proof, nothing. It's a witch hunt, pure and simple. Funny how we have no BBC "reports" on Abramovich financing Corinthians so they can buy Tevez and Mascherano or buying players for PSV so they can be cultivated there and then brought to Chelsea. Nothing on ManYoo and Royal Antwerpt??? Exactly...oh I'm sure that's 100% legit.

And btw, none of you Spuds supporters should be saying ANYTHING considering how your little "food posioning" claim was found out to be an utter lie. Ahhhh smell the hypocrisy...what a joke.

1:19 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you Aresnal fans think your club's statement answers the allegations, then you are mistaken.

Say all you want, but Arsenal must answer Newsnight's allegations to Fifa.

1:32 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Sep Blatter said in Sept 2004:

"Football must remain entertainment for all. It must not become the plaything of a greedy few who believe that their (fleeting) financial strength gives them the legitimacy to call the shots, abandon the grass roots and destroy the very foundation of the national game."

The Newsnight evidence suggests that Arsenal might just be one of those "greedy few".

So I agree with the other Spurs fan who said that Arsenal must answer the Newsnight allegations to Fifa. COYS.

1:59 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And we will - It's a pile of Spurs, pieced together to sensationalise and increase ratings. No real basis for a case at all...As you all know, but anything to get a bite hey?

2:01 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ARSENAL OFFICIAL REPLY to Newsnights allegations.

THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT WAS ISSUED by Arsenal yesterday in response to BBC Newsnight's allegations.

"Arsenal Football Club is aware that BBC Newsnight is carrying a story this evening purporting to describe Arsenal's relationship with Belgian football club, Beveren.
Arsenal does not normally make public its agreements with third parties. However, Arsenal can confirm that it has had a technical relationship with Beveren since 2001. This relationship has a number of benefits to both clubs such as providing a platform to share coaching methods and techniques as well as facilitating the option of players being loaned between the clubs. For example, during the course of the relationship, Arsenal players David Grondin, Liam Chilvers, John Halls and Graham Stack all spent successful loan periods at Beveren as did Emmanuel Eboue, who played in a number of trial matches with Arsenal whilst contracted to Beveren. Such was the latter player's success, Arsenal subsequently signed Eboue on a permanent basis.

In addition, Arsenal confirms that it has never owned, directly or indirectly, any shares in Beveren or had any power whatsoever to influence its management or administration. It did in 2001 provide funds of 1,570,703 Euros by way of loan to a member of the consortium to assist in stabilising the finances of Beveren.

At no time has anyone at Arsenal been contacted by any regulatory or investigatory body with respect to its relationship with Beveren. Arsenal and all its staff have acted properly throughout, in accordance with all applicable rules and regulations, and in the best interests of Beveren, Arsenal and the broader footballing community."

2:07 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Blogger Rhyle said...

You lot want us to be found guilty so bad don't you?

It's really come to this for you has it? Can't win on the pitch so we've got to lose off it?

Tut tut tut gents...pretty fucking sad really isn't it?

In my lifetime (30 years old) Arsenal have won...

6 FA Cups
5 League titles
2 League Cups (Littlewoods & Coca Cola)
1 European Cup Winners Cup

Where are your medals in that time?
3 FA Cups. 1 League Cup. That was won after Arsenal and Man Utd started fielding their reserve side for it. We've lost more finals than you've appeared in the last 25 years. You're a joke, a shadow of who you were 40 years ago.

We've been run properly, unlike you lot who were very nearly run into the ground.

We have a nice new stadium, with a great team to play there, including one of the best players in the world at the moment, and a great manager to lead us.

Oh and a nice little earner with the Champions League to help pay for it.

You're a micky-mouse, poorly run, pale imitation from Enfield (which is fucking Hertfordshire for fucks sake...where you lot get off calling it North London is beyond fucking me) who have been living off of the great achievement of winning the double forty years ago.

You have no god-given right to anything. You have to earn everything you achieve. Understanding that will lead to a much more fulfilling life instead of this vitriolic void for souls you lot seem to intent on filling with nothing but bile for Arsenal.

It really does beggar belief the shit you lot come out with because...and let's be honest here...

You're jealous that it's US and not YOU.

2:09 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Rhyle,

Why get so wound up man? Take a chill pill dude....

2:30 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Blogger Rhyle said...

I'm okay...don't read anything into my above diatribe...I can be a bit verbose at times. It comes from the boredom of insomnia.

And enjoying taking the piss out of fifth-place-is-an-achievement Spurs fans.

2:33 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And while your there, say some prayers for your club.

2:37 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Blogger Rhyle said...

I've yet to see any convincing argument for relegation or exclusion from the Champions League. Until then...prayers are completely unneccesary.

I was thinking of starting a transfer rumour:

'Heskey to Arsenal'

And then waiting to see how long it took Jol to buy him. I'm offering good odds on more than a week as I think the deal would be done within 48 hours.

2:41 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Blogger dazyid said...

lets not get carried away, are we ready for the champs league ???? I think not.... On the bright side we are looking up, even challenging the good sides to a game,thats an improvement.2 years more MJ will pull it off. YID ARMY....YID ARMY... 20 games a season cumbria yid...always look on the bright side of life (barca barca )

2:45 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous alien visitor said...

Top story on "considered" and "in depth" news programme on TV channel funded by compulsory public payment; a football club lent some money (enough to buy a very nice house with a pool) to a smaller foreign football club to help them out. The latter have promising players from another continent who may one day be good enough to graduate to the former. The ruling body of the game must decide whether or not contravention of the rules regarding this arrangement (known as a feeder system and employed by several other of the larger teams) have occurred. Minor stories following this lengthy segment included the possible massacre of innocent civilians in a vicious war...

2:45 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Blogger Rhyle said...

Time for more honesty...the only thing Martin Jol will ever 'pull off' is Jermaine Jenas

2:49 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time for the Arsenal to answer the Newsnight allegations to Fifa.

2:54 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Blogger Rhyle said...

I'll give you this...if there are charges to be answered then yes Arsenal will and deserve to be punished. If you read my earlier post, I'm a little concerned in the sudden change in tac from Belgian players to African players. A big change which came at a strange time.

I wouldn't be hopeful of relegation or exclusion from the Champions League though.

A couple of questions for you lot...

1. If David Dein is such an 'evil genius'...do you honestly think he'd do anything illegal and PUT HIS NAME TO IT?

2. Do any of you think the timing of the allegations being revealed is a little strange bearing in mind they were made on the day that David Dein sought re-election to the board of the FA?

3:06 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Arsenal fans. Get of this site, your not wanted and your repetitive you bore the fuck out of all of us so do us a favour and shut up. I dont care about your club or the allegations but I know this. Long gone are the days when we could not compete with yous on the pitch. Its only a matter of time till we beat you. Do you remember Aron Lennon toying with Flamini?? Haha its on the way . See you next season cant wait you are scum and always will be..COYS

3:17 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Blogger Rhyle said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

3:26 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Blogger Rhyle said...

Y'see shit like thats why we come on to your sites...can't get enough of your random 'Aaron Lennon toying with Flamini' balls.

Lennon had the better of a midfielder being used as an emergency left back. Do you think he'll have the same joy with Cole next season? Keep dreaming...as one of your lot wants us to do, we'll keep looking over our shoulder knowing you'll always be there...

The one who REALLY makes me piss myself and everyone else on my nightshift...Spurs fans included...is Martin Jol. He hasn't got an original thought in his head. When was the last time you bought a player who HADN'T been linked with Arsenal for 2/3 years. The best way to get a move to a mediocre premiership club is by getting your agent to say that we've been sniffing around him and hey presto...welcome to Spurs.

3:27 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ENIC WHAT???

ENIC control 29.9% of shares in Spurs
43% of AEK Athens
11.8% of FC Basel
20.2% of Glasgow Rangers
96.7% of Slavia Prague
99.9% of Vicenza

It is good when you guys dig yourself in a hole doesnt it?

HYPOCRITES!!!!!
BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

THAT IS YOUR OWNER LOSERS!!!

4:27 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You spu*s fan are such a bunch of losers.
Why the fuck am I wasting my time reading this piece of shit.

4:51 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you guys are such hyporites
get an education

ENIC ENIC ENIC!!!!!!!

4:52 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can I ask a question?
How come your Spuds had to lie about being poisoned? how come

please answer WITHOUT LIES!!!!

5:22 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Again, why don't we hear all you Spuds supporters condemning your own friggin' club for faking a food poisoning outbreak (while some of you delusional supporters blamed it on Arsenal) and trying to get the final game replayed simply because you CHOKED it away and couldn't deal with it. Act all high and mighty if you want, everyone else knows the truth.

Bunch of hypocrites, period.

5:24 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

le arse are a bunch of good for nothing cheats and always have been everyone knows that. You lot are worried and that's the only reason your on here talking crap. You lot can say what you want about the last game of the season but everyone knows it was foul play and Dien covered his tracks. This time how ever he didn't and him and Wenger have been lying for years so why did they just now come out and admit giving Breveren money after dening it for years?


hahahaha have fun answering to FIFA

7:48 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous jim said...

On the intelligence of gooners. Rhyle thinks Enfield is in Hertfordshire. It used to be in Middlesex. Now it's in gretaer London. It could be myopia of course. You can look that up Rhyle. Under M. In a dictionary...oh ask someone what that is.

8:02 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For all the arse fans:

1. What you say about Enic and Rangers etc simply isn't true. Enic sold parts of their shares in these clubs to follow rules and regulations. Also Enic have been completely open about their part ownership in other clubs and NOTHING has been done about it. The reason you have those numbers is because it was made public. Unlike arse's "we have no financial interest in Beveren" statements and cover-ups. Wake up, smell the difference.

2. "A director of Beveren, who did not wish to be identified, told Newsnight that in return for the £1m, De Waele was given 50% control of Beveren and Guillou was given another 30%." (Direct quote BBC). If this is in fact true, then surely this is dodgy at best for your club.

3. Think about Beveren for a little while. A club close to going out of business some years ago, suddenly they changed their youth and transfer policy completely, the focus of the club no longer football, but purely financial - making money off selling African players on the European market. However, now, several big-money transfer deals later they have no money again, close to bancrupcy. Where did the money go??? Could it be that some of the unknown owners have some of it??? Pure speculation of course, but surely something FIFA would look into.

8:14 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Dignity said...

Football fans are sad really. My club can do no wrong. So let's spell it out. Arsenal give a large sum of money to a shell company NV Goal, controlled by an asscoiate of Mr Dein (referred to a straw man by Belgian authorities). NV Goal use it to buy 50% of Beveren. Beveren use it to buy players from an academy in which Mr Wenger and his associate are investors. NV Goal take a percentage of the profit on transfers. Mr Wenger's associate takes a percentage. Beveren take the smallest percentage of the profit. The loan to NV Goal is interest free and hasn't been replayed for four years. Arsenal and Wenger deny they have made any finanial inverstment in Beveren. Technically this is true, because the money went to a front company. When this comes out - because even the Belgian authorities could spot something was wrong - Arsenal admit they are liars - that's LIARS - but try to say that they haven't had controll over Beveren. Technically, this is true, as it is NV Goal. But NV Goal is a shell company, funded by Arsenal and fronted by an associate of Mr Dein which profits from transfers from Beveren. So who, apart from Arsenal fans, would believe that that there is no influence? Hands up. No-one.

The funniest thing on the Newsnight report was Telegraph journo saying that Arsenal prided themselves on being whiter than white in their dealings. Of course they do. They would prefer the world to forget that their place in the top division was bought through corruption.

Frankly I expect that if any punishment is brought against Arsenal, it will be negligible. I imagine right now Mr Dein is calling in his favours

8:18 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Lilywhite said...

Nothing will happen to Arsenal because of this solely becuase of their size and influence.

However I find it funny that AGAIN Arsenal fans defend the actions of Dein and co.

Just like they defend the cheating of their players and the anti english policies of their manager and the rape by Van Persie.

fair play they have been supporting a more successful team the last few years, but if thats what it requires then they can keep it.

I support Spurs because we are class. simple as that.

8:34 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

4. I completely agree with those thinking that the punishment if wrong doing is found will probably be something small, a fine at around 2-3 of Henry's weekly wages is probably the hardest punishment we can expect to see. After all arse is a part of G14, Dein in the FA and the genereal corruption of the footballing world doesn't help. However, according to many forums arse have a suspended 2 year transfer ban punishment for previous misconduct. This could kick in - this is possibly the most interesting thing about the whole affair, and possibly the reason arse would have wanted this (possibly) minor offence to never get out in the open.

8:38 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anybody know of a petition to remove David dodgy Dein from the FA? If not anyone up for starting one?

8:46 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous parklanespur said...

its about time the scum from the library were found out! i always new they were corrupt...........david dein's a wanker who is running the premierleage and fa...........and beveren!! i hope they get found guilty because this is terrible what they are doing............wenger is no good french tosser who cheats to win!

come on u spurs.........at least we got the core of our teams from..........ermmm England!

8:49 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Surely this means that David "THE PRICK" Dein cannot be involved with the FA in such an important role after this latest fuck-up! What a dick-head he is!

9:59 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Blogger Fuzzo Yiddo said...

Haha Ive been having a good ole belly laugh at you Goons getting all worked up like women on their monthly's. Few points I want to make:

1. The food poisoning allegation was not a lie. Its clear to see how it was thought to be food poisoning as very few stomach viruses spread so quickly and so affectively. Its actually quite rare to see such a fast spreading case. Spurs may have got the sourse of the virus wrong, but that was a mistake, not a lie. Its was embarressing to ask for a replay but I am sure in my wisdom that if it had been Arsenal on our place that your team would have kicked up just as much fuss and also asked for a replay. Its not cheating. If were being completely honest about cheating... check out Eboue! Diving in the CL final making you guys look like fools. And as for the "oh I'm down injured, stop the play, wah wah!" by him when you played us; blatent cheating. We could go on all day...

2. ENIC only have invested shares in the clubs but have no influence on how the club is run or how the clubs deals. This is legal under FIFA laws. Most Premier League clubs have shareholders who own shares in other clubs. This is NOT what Arsenal are being accussed of doing.

3. There is evidence... old Barry Dein has his signature on documentation that could prove Arsenal have been up to dirty tricks. I'm not saying that Arsenal should be relegated or anything but I'm just saying that us fans have no idea what evidence has really been found, so you cant be so sure its rubbish.

4. I personally think that if Arsenal do get found guilty for summin, then a ban on transfers for 2 seasons, a hefty fine and 12 points docked would be good enough punishment. I'd get more pleasure in watching you be guilty than watching any harsh penalties.


Sod off Goons. You stick to your sites and we'll stick to ours.

10:17 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dont worry, we proved last season that we are consistently better than the arse and this season we'll finish miles ahead of them in the top 4. they got lucky last season and had some truly dire moments...lemon, campbell, diaby, senderos, eboue, adebayor, van persie, reyes LMFAO

there time has come and the goons are scared. nothing will come of all this but the spurs dont need to worry.

We are now north londons number 1 side...and they knw it!!!

10:35 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Blogger Rhyle said...

Jim...glad to see your keeping up but not quite getting it...now THATS an indictment of intelligence.

As is statements like

'We proved last season that we are consistently better than the Arse' - you played a record low of 40 games and still finished below us in the league. Sounds like very definition of consistency.

'A front company funded by Arsenal' - If any of you honestly believe that 1.5m is enough to front a top-level football club in Belgium you're smarter than I though.

'Enic own shares in the company but have no influence on how the clubs run and how the clubs deal' - Do you know anything about what it means to be a shareholder? It means you get to vote in some of them there fancy meetings and - ahem - have an influence on how the clubs run. 1 share = 1 vote, so I'd say that Enic have a LARGE say in how these clubs are run.

The FA are making their investigation to see if we've breached any of the PL's rules. We haven't, nor have you as Rule 3 of the Premier League only states that clubs in the PL can't own shares in, or making loans to, or being involved in the management of (ready? because this is the important part) another Premiership club or an English Football League club.

THESE RULES DO NOT APPLY OUTSIDE OF THE UK.

There is no wrong doing, several solicitors are now on TV saying this is no wrong doing.

All this is Comolli being very helpful to Mr. Levy who is a bitter little toad holed up in his
Enfield swamp.

We've broken no rules, we'll get no punishment. Get the fuck over it and make sure you don't mug yourselves off in future. We'll see you in our 60,000 seater, state of the art new stadium next season. I'm sure you'll show us that you've overturned twenty years of pain and suffering watching us the beautiful game and take home trophy after cup after title and be challenging Everton for a place in the intertoto cup. Still, it's better than you've been doing for most of those twenty years isn't it?

11:36 AM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh rhyle

you sad deluded fool.

good luck!

12:03 PM, June 02, 2006

 
Blogger Rhyle said...

Love it...I'm the one being delusional. Evidence, proof, it's all going Arsenals way yet again and Spurs are left to lament on what might have been again...the story is already being buried. BBC are barely touching it themselves now, though do have a few comments from Mel Goldberg confirming what I've been telling you all along...

Afraid it's going to be another sad, sad year at the Lane. While we're playing Champions League finals, beating Juve and Real Madrid on the way, you're going out of both cups to Grimsby and Leicester. You can never get near the memories I have of the last ten, you'll never see your team lift the title and you'll never see your team play the football we have over the last ten years.

Get over it and you might lead a more fulfilling life instead of being the venomous little snides you all are now, mugging yourselves off with ludicrous dreams of finishing above Arsenal and getting in the Champions League.

12:19 PM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I find the use of the word gypo to describe the scum derogatory and insulting .......... to gypo's everywhere

1:20 PM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

silly little gooners why so sad??

stay to your own sites please you make me and rest of us sick we dont want you here or your petty comments dont come back now ok. See yous next season can you feel it coming??

COYS

1:35 PM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Burried? The Gooners are all over the news...the Iraq was is more burried than you. Are you absolutely blind to the fact you have broken the rules? Or is this a case where you believe you are bending the rules to cheat ur way to success?

Giving a club money whether it be a loan or not and having a direct influence on their transfer policy to bring in players Arsene couldn't sign due to a lack of european games is not fair on other teams. Eboue is a clear example of this policy. Eboue was signed from a training camp in the Ivory Coast that Arsene helped set up. He then joined Beveren due to the lax work permit laws in Belgium and as soon as he got Belgium citizenship he was shipped off to north london.

CHEATING. If the "punishment is to fit the crime" then i think being booted from europe is fair. You can keep your players.

My only spurs worry is that how much of a part did Commoli have to play in all this?

1:38 PM, June 02, 2006

 
Blogger Rhyle said...

Well, it's not playing on Sky Sports News anymore and this is the only thing I've found on the BBC website...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/5040448.stm

ITV of course are a little off the ball when it comes to football.

You're an idiot if you honestly think we'll relegated or kicked out of the Champions League. The evidence shows nothing but a loan to an individual to help HIM form a company called NV Goal. Nothing illegal about that.

Enjoy the UEFA cup and learn to take 5th place with the humility it deserves.

I would LOVE one of you to prove you actually understand what is going on and come back with something concrete other regurgitated horse crap from Newsnight who's investigation was about as deep as most of your souls.

2:03 PM, June 02, 2006

 
Blogger Rhyle said...

Well...I've given you lot an hour and a half to come up with a cohesive argument as to what exactly you think Arsenal have done wrong and why they deserve to be kicked out of the Champions League and surprise surprise you've come up with nothing.

I've never come across such an ill informed bunch of illiterates in my life.

Think it's time we all moved on from this...me to another night shift...you lot to more conspiracy theories and your adult literacy classes.

3:39 PM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok loaning money to Beveren might not be against Fifa rules, but
the fact that they got rid of their Belgian players and replaced them with African ones might suggest that Arsenal were in someway, abeit indirectly, control of that club. Therefore, Arsenal could be in contravention of Fifa rules.

5:01 PM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Kenneth said...

I don't see how amazing will it be even if we win next season's Champions League if we manage to compete at the expense of Arsenal. Let's not change this blog into the Arsewars bullcrap blog_shite.

What we really want is to start beating the big guns in Premiership first before we start whacking the rest of Europe out there. I think by starting in UEFA Cup is a great first step towards that.

It's been long since we have our taste of top European Football. We want to play the game with a beautiful mind. Waiting for us to qualify Champions League in case somebody got caught in an allegation is an insult thing for us to do.

5:10 PM, June 02, 2006

 
Blogger Fuzzo Yiddo said...

Oh rhyle. You do make me laugh getting rather "rhyled" up. See... I can be literate. I am not sure what I find funnier; your inability to belittle others in an intelligent manner or how you are so sure YOU know more than anyone else. I'll let you into a little secret... you know as much as us! Crazy thought huh! You have been watching the same news stories as us and hearing the same information as us but somehow, you seem to have supreme knowledge despite not actually having any exclusive sources. So the way I see it, you may be far more "superior" in brain capacity ( so you say) than all of us Spurs fans but in reality your just Mr Average football fan who knows squat in comparison on this story.

Now lets return to your "amazing" knowledge about ENIC as I assume your a portfolio is very good in this area. ENIC is a company owned by a number of different SHAREHOLDERS; as we discussed earlier. These are all different men who have made their money in different ways and these men all have their own business elsewhere also. Each of them, seperately, own shares in football clubs across Europe. As a shareholder you can take two different roles. An active role or, you guessed it, an inactive role. An active role includes working within the company with direct influence. An inactive role means you have a vote on the welfare of the business but you chose to leave it as an investment. Funny theory I know.

Levy and Lewis, as a collective, have their shares in Spurs but Levy took over as chairman as Alan Sugar wanted to hand over the control. Levy in no way, has ANY connection to other clubs and in no way can control any of them. The difference between this and the alleged Arsenal case is that Arsenal were apparently using money to gain an unfair advantage by influencing Beveren and Belgium's slack work permit laws to help them obtain younger, brighter African talent. Lets face it, this might not be true but boy does Wenger like his African talent. Slap!

Rhyle my good lad, for someone that is apparently so accomplished in the literary sense, you have a bit of a problem with not sounding like a cock. So I thought I'd stoop to your level and act all condescending toward you. Have a great nightshift.

6:31 PM, June 02, 2006

 
Blogger Fuzzo Yiddo said...

Oh... and what a shame about Dein being booted out of the FA. What do they know that we dont I wonder.


Hey, Rhyle might know. He knows everything.

8:22 PM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

UEFA just confirmed that NO RULES HAVE BEEN BROKEN and have said the matter is closed

BBC Newsnight has apologized and will release a statement

Spurs fans are still lying tvrds who still persist they were poisoned

good one LIAR spurs fans. youa re the true cheats.

8:45 PM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Again Arsenal bring the game into disgrace, when will the FA have the guts to punish them. A 5 year ban from Europe and relegation to the 2nd division seems a fair penalty. Wenger has been caught lying about investing his money and so should be banned from managing. David Dean should be imprisoned. Arsenal fans lower your heads in shame, your club is rotten to the core.

9:08 PM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

rhyle do you really take pleasure in supporting a team full of foreigners?
i think its pathetic
ure basically a one man team. end of.
adleast we had a season to be proud of.
arent u supposed to be challenging for the league title????
get of this blog f*ckin gooner,
and dream of belletti scoring the winner against u scum over and over
haha prick

11:47 PM, June 02, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

David Dein voted off the FA board by the Premier League is great news for the future of football.

1:47 AM, June 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Rhyle said...

Okay...it's been a little while as I've actually managed finally to find some time to do some work...but I'm sure you're glad that I'm back to put your poor misguided selves to right.

1. Bravo Kenneth for getting the point of all this.

2. Fuzzyyiddo - at what point did I criticise Enic's involvement in anything? I've only been critical of the spurious bullshit thats been spewed on here and it only strikes me that my understanding of the situation is better than anyone elses...purely for the fact that I'm taking on more than I'm an Arsenal fan, I'm reading EVERYONES opinion on the matter for/against whatever. I kinda think that makes me more rational, more measured. Read my earlier posts, I've AGREED that if it turns out we've done something wrong we deserve to be punished. I've AGREED that it appears we seem to have exerted an influence over the change from Belgian players to African players and that this, if proved to be something Arsenal are responsible for, is something we shouldn't be proud of and punished for.

My points, in several VERY FUCKING CLEAR posts have been your piss poor pitiful attempts at understanding the actual implications and your optimism in that you seem to think Arsenal will either be relegated or banned from the Chamions League. I'll say it ONE MORE TIME for you. It's not about me being smarter. IT'S ABOUT ME BEING RIGHT. No-one, lawyers, experts whatever can find anything wrong in what Arsenal have done ON PAPER AND IN THE RULES. Not once have I justified what may be questionable behaviour, in fact I've done the opposite and in an admittedly roundabout way condemned it. HAVING SAID THAT WE HAVE NOT, AT LEAST AT FACE VALUE BROKEN ANY RULES.

Now as for your David Dein being kicked off of the FA point...I refer you to my earlier point about the timing of these allegations. I think they've got more to do with him being ousted. DD being kicked off of the FA has absolutely no impact on me whatsoever, but if it makes you feel better...fine. I'll just bet that the next time the FA appear to favour Man Utd you'll be very glad that Mr. Gill is in charge.

Remember...there's always two sides to a coin.

And my nightshift has been shit to say the least.

2:15 AM, June 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I repeat my earlier blog -

Ok loaning money to Beveren might not be against Fifa rules, but
the fact that they got rid of their Belgian players and replaced them with African ones might suggest that Arsenal were in someway, abeit indirectly, control of that club. Therefore, Arsenal could be in contravention of Fifa rules.

2:25 AM, June 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Rhyle said...

Another interesting point raised just now by a fellow gooner...

Interesting how the investigation does not implicate any direct wrongdoing.

MORE INTERESTING THAT IT'S THE BBC MAKING THE ALLEGATIONS ABOUT A CLUB IN WHICH GRANADA (ITV) HAVE A LARGE SHAREHOLDING.

Me...it strikes me, as I've been very clear about, that we may have bent the rules...everything else is immaterial. In the words of any judge (at least, judging by comments from UEFA)...NOT FUCKING GUILTY MUPPETS.

Oh...and good luck in the UEFA cup. I'd love an English side to win it...even you...of course I wouldn't be saying that if I thought for a moment you had the ability to actually win it.

2:25 AM, June 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TOO ALL THE ARSENAL FANS THAT HAVE POSTED COMMENTS ON THIS SITE...YOU GUYS ARE SOOOOO VERY SAD.

2:27 AM, June 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Rhyle said...

And I repeat my earlier statement that we're NOT in contravention of UEFA rules as we do not own shares in Beveren. We may exert an influence but that is not punishable by relegation or being thrown out of the Champions League.

EVERY TIME I STATE THIS AGAIN JUST MAKES YOU LOT LOOK LIKE FOOLS. KEEP IT UP AS I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO ON A NIGHTSHIFT THAN MAKE YOU LOT LOOK LIKE 'DIVS' TO USE MY NEPHEWS FAVOURITE WORD.

2:28 AM, June 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok. But I think its time to repeat an earlier blog by a fellow Spurs fabn who said:

"As Sep Blatter said in Sept 2004:

"Football must remain entertainment for all. It must not become the plaything of a greedy few who believe that their (fleeting) financial strength gives them the legitimacy to call the shots, abandon the grass roots and destroy the very foundation of the national game."

The Newsnight evidence suggests that Arsenal might just be one of those "greedy few".

So I agree with the other Spurs fan who said that Arsenal must answer the Newsnight allegations to Fifa. COYS."

It seemes that in Arsenal's burning desire to win at all costs + greed for money, they might have controlled Bereven to get rid of their Belgian players and replace them with Africans. If there is proof of this then Fifa ought to take serious disciplinary action against Arsenal.

David Dein being voted off the FA is the 1st step to cleaning up our game. After all what a stupid man to try to get "big Phil". The man hardly spoke any English.

2:48 AM, June 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Rhyle said...

Fair enough...if you weren't agreeing with half of what I've already said (which is most of the problem with you lot...seem more intent in having an argument than actually reading whats been written). I've said countless fucking times that it's strange that Beveren changed their team at around the same time that the payments been made. I'D DEARLY, DEARLY LOVE SOME CLARIFICATION OVER WHAT YOU THINK WE'VE DONE WRONG AND WHY IT'S SO BAD.

As for Big Phil...I was saying his name before it came out as being linked with the job in the first place. He's a first rate coach with a first rate record. Let him learn English...it's not like he didn't have time to. Fucking TOMMY from the Who musical could fucking see he was the right man with the right experience for the job.

As for getting rid of David Dein from the FA...thank GOD. It just gives one less reason to fucking bitch when we beat you all ends up next season. His focus will be on Arsenal, Arsenals focus will be on football. Spurs focus seems to be purely on trying to get into the Champions League by hook or by crook.

HONESTLY I CAME ON HERE LOOKING FOR SOME INTELLIGENT DISCOURSE ON THE SITUATION. NOT ONCE HAVE I SAID WE WERE COMPLETELY GUILT FREE. I'VE JUST SAID WE HAVEN'T BROKEN ANY RULES. YOU LOT HAVE GOT THE WRONG END OF THE SHITTY STICK AND HAVEN'T TRULY UNDERSTOOD ONE IOTA OF THIS SITUATION OR READ A WORD I'VE SAID AS I'VE DEALT WITH ALL THIS SHIT ALREADY AND ALL YOU'RE DOING IS MAKING ME MORE AND MORE CORRECT IN MY ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT YOU. READ WHAT I'VE WRITTEN. THINK ABOUT IT. COME BACK WITH SOMETHING WORTH READING YOU MORONS.

2:58 AM, June 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Rhyle said...

Another point to raise is that you seem so glad that David Dein has been voted off that you haven't noticed that 3 people from North West clubs...Man Utd, Bolton and Blackburn are now on the board of the FA. Hmmm...wonder what'll happen if Bolton beat Spurs to their UEFA cup spot next season.

I SMELL A CONSPIRACTY AGAINST SPURS BREWING ALREADY.

3:07 AM, June 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rhyle or should is say yiddo!!!

You seem to spend so much time in this spurs website you seem to be a Spurs fan in disguise!! So why don't you come clean?

3:30 AM, June 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3:32 AM, June 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, Rhyle. You need a reality pill and stop taking bollocks.

3:36 AM, June 03, 2006

 
Blogger Fuzzo Yiddo said...

Well Rhyle, I was actually impressed with your reply. You at least understood half of what I said. I dont think you HAVE read everybodies comments as you seem so convinced that I am desperate for Arsenal to be caught for some form of cheating and that I want them relegated and kicked out of the CL. Oh contraire my good fellow. If you had infact read what I wrote earlier in this blog you will see that I was opposed to these ideas and that I wouldn't take any enjoyment in that happening what-so-ever. I never take a "spurs fan" bias in these situations. I take a much similar stance to you as there is such a thing as 'what is best for football'. I think it would be a shame if Arsenal were relagted as that would have been harsh. I also made comments stating that I thought the allegations were soft and wouldnt stand at all. All done and dusted on that matter now.


As for old Deiny boy. I think it is a good thing that he is gone. I simply do not like him as a person and I question his ethics. Thats my personal opinion of him. I dont know enough on Gill to comment and I cannot see how geographical reason will assure a conspiracy. It could be Arsenal on the receiving end of a conspiracy though and it could well be you having a good old moan next season. Your very right, there are two sides to every coin. Couldnt put it better myself.

Now Rhyle, as you seem to be the only Gooner on here that knows how to write, I shall only be directing my comments at you from now on. Your fellow Goons come on here talking as much bollocks as some of the Spurs fans on here so it evens itself out. If you want civilised discussion on this matter then I think you need to review your tone towards others on here.


As for all the Goons who are convinced that Spurs are cheaters for wanting a replay... get a clue. We were hard done by on that day as it was a very strange occurance but Ive said it before and I'll say it again; if it were Arsenal with 9 players with flu on the same day. Last day of the season and desperately needing to win to secure CL spot... you would have felt cheated. The fact that none of you would ever admit it here in public proves to me that your spineless.

3:44 AM, June 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Rhyle said...

Fuzzoyiddofella...I've not accused you of wanting Arsenal relegated / expelled from the CL...just the rest of your more reactionary compatriots. I've only tried to deal with some missunderstandings of my point of view. As you say...done and dusted...

My point about the representatives on the board of the FA is that it doesn't matter who it is, there is always going to be a rival who thinks that they've only got their own teams interests at heart. With Gill on the board, I'm sure that Man City will soon have the same issues you lot had with Dein.

The whole issue of Dein being on the board of the FA is a very recent niggling point between Spurs and Arsenal brought about by some, shall we say BLUE tinted, glass wearing, shit spouting former MP newspaper columnist who sulks when he doesn't get his own way. It stems from the travesty that was the search for the next England manager (which could and should have waited until after the World Cup). The questions he raised were: why wasn't Wenger approached? Was he shielded by Dein? The answer has been no to both as Wenger HAS REPEATEDLY STATED THAT INTERNATIONAL FOOTBALL MANAGEMENT DOESN'T INTEREST HIM.

As an Arsenal fan who knows a bit about the man himself I know that there is probably only one job that could ever tempt Wenger away from Arsenal and that is the team that has always been the Alsacians (if thats a word) first love...Bayern Munich. Even there, given the free reign he has at Arsenal and the commitment he's made to the club, I don't think that would tempt him away now.

4:07 AM, June 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Kenneth said...

My fellow Yids,

I think we have to stop throwing bad eggs at people and start looking at how should our club improve.

Whatever people are laughing at us, and whatever they are laughing about, let them laugh.

THFC is a football club which needs no stepping on anyone's head to rise above anybody else. We are a warrior's sword which has been blunt and loses its true potential, but the great Martin is here to sharpen the blade so we can cheer beating the great ones once again.

Forget Arsenal, forget Man U, forget Chelsea... let's put every team out of the picture for a while, and look at ours. I heard laughters has lessened this year when we were firm at 4th all season. I even see Gunners fans start coming to see our Spurs game again at some pubs. Ain't football supposed to be a beautiful game rather than just clubs with fans exchanging insults on each other?

We have a UEFA Cup to win next season and hopefully finish on the top three cuz we were nearly there last season.

If we are really in the Champions League, we won't be proud even if we win it. Remember HOW we qualified for it.

6:44 AM, June 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Remember...there's always two sides to a coin"


Yeah but they're very rarely both reasonable. One side is usually coming from a dishonest position.

7:17 AM, June 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6.44am,

You must a kind soul in your your teens or twenties.

There would be some here cheering as our closest rivals falling hard on their face.

For me, if Arsenal do lost out the CL place and we benefitted, I would not care if it was justly done.

Imagine, the likes of Lennon, King and Robinson in the CL and the excitement that comes with it.I don't think I would worry too much about the "honour" issue.

We have been honourable enough.We built a team that are predominantly English and the gooners prey on poor african countries in the name of success.

But I don't see it happening that the gooners would be ban from the CL.It would be a long legal process if FIFA do go ahead with sanctions.With the WC round the corner, any sanctions would not happen next season at least.

7:55 AM, June 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dein's gone from the FA panel - bout time.
trouble is, he's been replaced with the man ure chief exec !! you couldnt make it up.
coys

7:01 PM, June 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

David Dein being voted off the FA Board by the Premier League (by all of the 20 members), could be a result of the FA Board being asked by Fifa to investigate Arsenal's relationship with Beveren. Arsenal clearly lied when they previously denied any financial involvement with Beveren.

David Dein signed at least one of the documents un-earthed by Newsnight. Fifa asked the FA to investigate Arsenal's relationship with Beveren, and David Dein's position on the FA Board clearly became untenable as a result.

Arsenal may not have done anything wrong in loaning £1M to Beveren, but they may have been behind the policy for Beveren to get rid of their Belgian players and replace them with African ones. Arsenal would then cherry pick the best ones as and when their footballing ability became clear. If the Newsnight allegations are proved, then Arsenal are guilty as charged. They should not only be fined (which would not have much impact) but THEY SHOULD BE THROWN OUT OF NEXT SEASON'S EUROPEAN CUP COMPETION, AND BANNED FROM IT FOR AT LEAST 5 YEARS.

10:29 PM, June 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Rhyle said...

I'm afraid I'm going to need to know what you think we've done wrong and more of a reason for that punishment sir. Is that an expert opinion of someone who knows what they are talking about or just what you, whose team stands to benefit from our expulsion from the Champions League, would like to see?

The facts of the situation are becoming clearer - the BBC in an article by a POLITICAL reporter (so not exactly someone with a wide knowledge of FIFA rules) who shall we say exaggerated the impact and relevance of this £1m loan. The reason it came to light is due to a Belgian police investigation into MAFIA connections, they've found us and (as is now being covered in the Belgian media)are trying to justify their investigations. The article was given to 'a source' in the UK 3 weeks ago and has been sat on until the oh-so-convenient-just-before-FA-board-elections Newsnight report.

Turns out even if Arsenal did have an influence on the change in direction to African players, as long we don't hold more than 50% of the shares in Beveren, we've DONE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG.

Interesting turn of events don't you think?

11:38 PM, June 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FIFA have asked the FA to investigate whether Arsenal have broken their rule which forbids any club to control another club in any way whatsoever (This could go beyond the ownership of shares in another club.) If Arsenal are found to have breached this rule they could be fined or even suspended.

2:08 AM, June 04, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11.38pm....The facts of the paper is staring at your face and you still get it ?

GOAL, the company set up to take over the financially stricken beveren hold 50% of shares.One of the contractual statements for GOAL were signed by Dein ON BEHALF OF ARSENAL FOOTBALL CLUB.(Is that fact shouting loud enough ? )You can even see a copy of that statement on the BBC website.

Arsenal may not have infringe premiership rules but they may have infringe FIFA regulations or even EU trading regulations.

Its a matter for FIFA to take up with Arsenal but I can't see them being booted out of CL though.Unless it is the proportion of the recent match fixing scandals in Italy.The financial implications of booted out of CL would be too massive a punishment that FIFA or UEFA dare to mete out.

6:43 AM, June 06, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Response to Lillywhite (8.34, 2-6-06)
Spurs class? don't you guys realize that your team is the laughing stock of and held in contempt by the rest of the football community? Your problem is you think your a big club. The truth is Villa, Man City, Blackburn, Derby and Forest (to name but a few) are more successful than you. The debacles with Hoddle, George Graham, Ardiles, Santini, Lasagnegate, Levy etc.The laughable fact is that you have you have just completed a season having played a record low number of premiership games, that your best season for years against Arsenals worst, yet you still finish below them. Remember a couple of years back when you lot threw your season tickets on the pitch? Now the deafening cry of "kick 'em out" against Arsenal doing what every top European team does. Spurs, you are a pathetic joke. Live with it. E

3:33 PM, June 06, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

its great seeing you arsenal wankers arguing your case now with all these pathetic long posts droning on and on argueing some pathetic little loopholes when you know your corrupt. it just underlines how worried you are that spurs are back, and what sad little spotty geeks you all are and when it comes to it your club and supporters are a joke!

especially you rhyle, doing your night shift and cheating your employer by spending far too much time on a spurs website...pathetic. probably claiming dole at the same time to no doubt and proving that cheats stick together.

enjoy watching your last two english players fuck off abroad wont you. cole to madrid to replace carlos to chelsea, bridge o us - another englishman. enjoy flamini and froggy clitty.

as for that other arsenhole claiming we are in hertfordshire - check out our london postcode of N17. history says yours reads SE18 or something i believe woolwich arse.

by the way - hasnt theo been a let down. glad we have got lennon.

bye wankers - and cant wait for your next visit to the lane so we can kick your heads in again, as we do every year!

8:59 PM, June 06, 2006

 
Anonymous parkie said...

never mind all the arsenal bollocks.

they are ahead of us and only decent quality additions to our squad will help catch em.

we have been linked with every player who can lace their boots and still not one decent signing.

11:09 PM, June 06, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not one decent signing?!!

So is Barbitoff crap then?

9:07 AM, June 08, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Berbatov( you got spelling wrong )is not crap but he aint special and no one apart from us wanted him. Raziak similarity ??

Arsenal will only sign quality and all the crap about us only buying english will come back to haunt us.

Stop press..... 2 french kids have joined us


see what i mean

10:47 PM, June 09, 2006

 

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