Recent going ons.
Sorry for the lack of any real posts in the last few days - I have a new bathroom being fitted and have had to move to the mother in laws so it has been busy.
By all accounts the performance of the team in Germany was good but we should have scored 2 or 3 more goals and put the game to bed but nevertheless we won and now have qualified for the last 32 of the UEFA cup. Considering we had a tough group we have done very well and we should all now turn up against Dynamo to ensure we win the group and get someone who finished third in there group. It also means we avoid the Champions League teams. Why they drop down to the UEFA when they have been eliminated from the CL is anyones guess (money) but really they should just fuck off and be out of Europe full stop.
No new injuries were picked up so I expect the same side in Germany to walk out to face Wigan although Jol may well mess with the strikers again. According to fans who saw Jol at the airport he was less than impressed with Mido and even less impressed with Defoe recently and that will add fuel to the fire from reliable sources on FTL and COYS that Defoe will be jogged on in January with Villa still sniffing around.
Apparently Liverpool are also sniffing around Dawson - I hop we make it clear that they can get stuffed.
COYS!
posted by Paxton Road at 2:52 PM
32 Comments:
they'd have to pay upwards of £25m for Daws.
He ain't for sale.
I want him to still be at the lane in 2016.
3:50 PM, November 25, 2006
What has Defoe done?
4:21 PM, November 25, 2006
"Why they drop down to the UEFA when they have been eliminated from the CL is anyones guess (money) but really they should just fuck off and be out of Europe full stop. - AGREED!!!
Dawson is here to stay at the Lane! Liverpool can sniff elsewhere!
I watched the game on Thursday and Mido was truely shocking! As he was against Blackburn.. Defoe should stay, he is quality!
4:42 PM, November 25, 2006
Mido is struggling at the moment, and for whatever reason, Defoe isn't the same player now that he's slipped to 3rd in the pecking order. I think Robbie is responsible for creating many of the chances, and Defoe doesn't get to play with him, thus he sees fewer opportunities to score (and with low confidence is missing the chances he does get). Lennon also creates chances when he gets crosses in, but again Defoe cannot benefit from this type of service as he's too short. So, what should Jol do with Defoe? What can he do? Much as I love the little fella, it may be time to get a few pounds for him. Don't want to see him coming back to haunt us though, so a non-prem team would be my preference, but would JD agree to go elsewhere in Europe?
4:51 PM, November 25, 2006
you can take Dawson from our cold, dead, yido fingers
4:56 PM, November 25, 2006
Mido has his contract now, I think it's all he was performing for last season.
Looks to me like he was/is more interested in the London lifestyle rather then football.
5:42 PM, November 25, 2006
Mido only played for 15 minutes on thursday.
7:51 PM, November 25, 2006
The idea that we are well off for strikers is a complete fallacy. It often happens that strikers need to change clubs to regenerate. That's what Defoe needs to do. He is finished at Tottenham. Mido may have shed some weight but he has lost the spark that made him unsettle defenders. Berbatov looks to me like he should be playing in Italy. It doesn't look like the Premiership suits him. I say get Darren Bent in during the window. The player we should have bought was Dean Ashton.
8:16 PM, November 25, 2006
I still think Berbs will adapt and as Jol says "become the player he was in Germany".
As for Defoe, he wants to be Spurs #1 poacher so bad. Problem is, he's a bit too selfish a striker. He doesn't play enough for the team, like Keane, who can link play. Defoe needs service to his feet in the box, where he can swing and fire -- which he is still great at, mind you -- but not many Prem teams allow such balls in anymore, thus taking away his main weapon and limiting JD's overall effectiveness.
11:16 PM, November 25, 2006
I think if MJ plays Malbranque and Defoe in the same team, you'll see a different Defoe.
Malbranque showed on Thursday that he loves to slip the ball between defenders in the box - meat and drink for Defoe, if he gets on the end of them.
Spurs have lacked that quality final ball in the Premiership this season - that's why NONE of the forwards, including Defoe, are scoring.
1:01 AM, November 26, 2006
There's no point getting rid of Defoe or anyone else unless we get someone who is clearly better in.Last season we got rid of Kanoute and ended up with Rasiak.Actually,I think Defoe will come good and we can paly him with keane playing deeper or wider.
9:25 AM, November 26, 2006
I agree with the above, Defoe is a player who needs decent service, the Spurs midfield doesn't and is incapable of giving it to him, put Defoe in the Man U team and he would score every week, Malbranque could be the answer, but we might never find out if Defoe is sold at Xmas. Personally i'd play Berb (he needs time to adjust to the Prem) and Defoe regularly to see if they could form a decent partnership, I know that leaves Keane out, but he's never been a prolific scorer, and never will be, and what we desperately need at the moment is goals. Defoe needs to be playing week in week out to be able to perform as we know he can, he needs that striker sharpness that you're never going to get sat on the bench all the time. As a side point, I think he's reacted remarkably well to not playing regularly, and if he does go in January, he should be applauded when/if he returns to the Lane Our striker situation is a conundrum, one that doesn't look like it can ever be solved properly and as a result is doing serious damage to our league position. As for Mido, he's an alright fourth striker to have on the bench, but should never be considered as a starting option at present because the other three are better options, whatever configuration we play them in.
As for Dawson, he's obviously absolutely crucial to our future success, and i'd break our wage structure to keep him at the Lane and ward off interest in him, but the worry I have is that with a player of his quality there's always going to be interest from 'those teams' and ultimately it will be his decision to stay or leave, ala Carrick. We just need to give him no reason to leave, ie by winning things.
9:32 AM, November 26, 2006
ok, we sell defoe for 8-10 million if we're lucky, who are we gonna replace him with for that money? no one half as good is the answer, or a similar player who is going to have exactly the same problem as Defoe has now DISTRIBUTION, our midfielders need to start creating, that's were our problem lies.
9:40 AM, November 26, 2006
what i would like to see is keane on the left linking the midfeild from a wide area. Defoe playing in front of berbertov picking up the the second ball or lay offs lennon on the right doing his thing and the midfield occasianally becoming narrow and deep looking to put defoe through and use his and lennon's pace
12:20 PM, November 26, 2006
What about this team
GK ROBBO
LB BENOIT
RB CHIMBONDA
CB KING
CB DAWSON
RM LENNON
CM ZOKORA
CM STEED
LM KEANE
FW BERBY
FW DEFOE
I think keane on the left could give us more chances and it gets Jenas out of the team the useless fuck.
12:36 PM, November 26, 2006
I honestly believe that Dawson will become a better player than King. He is so powerful in the air, and always plays with a smile on his face, showing that he is enjoying his football.
As for our forwards, I'd play Keane and Mido up front. That was the partnership that scared defenders last season. They have a very good understanding.
1:10 PM, November 26, 2006
I believe our performances atre just as they were last year. But the only thing you look at is the result. Except a couple of games last season we did not play a exillerating type of football. Only difference. We scored first, and we did not have to chase goals. By the way. Was last season so great? Ok, we finished 5 but that was it. No uefa cup, no real run in the cups. Just some luck in front of goal and some descent results. So before you start saying everything is so fucked up this season; Remember that charlton and Bolton have been better teams than us for most of the premier leagues existence.
4:02 PM, November 26, 2006
we won today and won well. the big difference i believe, if you watch all 3 goals, is there was a sense of urgency with each goal. each goal was scored with a great counter-attack.
too often this season have we played like crabs - sideways or backwards.
today, the ball went from defence to the back of the net in about 10 seconds.
defoe and berbatov looked quality together, please martin jol, give them a run in the side together.
even play keano on the left and push malbranque inside at the expense of zokora, with hudds holding.
11:34 PM, November 26, 2006
I said before Malbranque would made a difference and he did last night.
Though Berbatov was the MOM, Malbranque was the vital link between the stikers sitting just behind them.He is more than just a left sided player.
Berbatov showed all his class yesterday and at this rate, he could be our next legend.His skills are something to behold,In fact he is so good that the Madrid's of this world would be looking at him in the future.
But the players stupor at the beginning of the match have me screaming in frustration.Please guys stand up and be counted when you play in spurs shirt.
Wigan's goal is almost expected.No did the closing down.When I saw the next game between Manu and Chelsea.I note the difference.Every Man U player would defend.
COYS !
COYS !
2:15 AM, November 27, 2006
Berbatov could performed to his best and is looking like a legend in the making because the link up play of Malbranque.
When previously, without someone to interplay with, Berbatov looked very isolated.Defoe always look for the decisive runs into the box.However Malbranque is more subtle, always looking to recieve the ball in the last third of the field and thread the passes or shoot.
I'm not convinced than Huddlestone is the answer at the moment as the holding player.He just don't have the pace to do it.Zokora is the typical foreign player, he would lose out in a challenge for the ball with a experienced premieship player.
I salivate at the prospect of Hargreaves, that would sent us to heaven.Christmas is coming, I can dream.
COYS !
2:25 AM, November 27, 2006
What chance Berbatov will become what Henry is to Arsenal ?
Henry took a full season to settle in and took another season to establish himself.
Berbatov on last night showing is already beginning to bewitch opposition with his poise and footwork.
Have we finally found the talisman; read Gerrard is to Liverpool,Rooney to Man U,Lampard to Chelsea, that will launch a challenge on the Big 4 ?
COYS !
6:51 AM, November 27, 2006
Gee whiz, there could be a few turned ankles with all those fair weather Spurs fans climbing back onto the band waggon!
2:25 & 6:51, you act like you are surprised Berbs is a player, when the rest of us not-so-fickle fans rated him even before we bought him. Same goes for Zokora. Everyone knows it takes foreign players time to adapt to the Prem (you gotta love Tevez's comment that Prem defenders allow you only one touch of the ball before they "eat your legs" -- classic!). Anyhow, Berbs' class was never in doubt, but please give him a bit more time before you start calling him the next Spurs "legend", as it makes all of us Spurs fans seem simple.
5:00 PM, November 27, 2006
Berbatov is dynamite. He has the highest technical ability as a striker. Just look at the goal he scored against Besiktas. Balance, control at speed and knows where the net is. Then look at the volley against Bruges; deadly.
He may be a bit of an enigma at present but there have been flashes of brilliance that make 11 million pound look cheap. He has the potential to be a legend. He is in Germany. Look at the ovation he got? Let's hope he flourishes under Big Maart and gives evryone else the run around.
12:10 AM, November 28, 2006
anon 5pm,
What I'm suggesting is that he COULD be a legend.I haven't thought anyone that in a spurs shirt since Klinnsman.
I'm also suggesting that he could have a impact like Henry and I don't even think Defoe could in his best form couple of seasons back even when Jol suggested it..
It's just my own judgement of things to come.
12:56 AM, November 28, 2006
As for your jibe about fair weather spurs fans, if being paranoid and rant when we have a bad game is your idea of a "loyal" fan, you can remain one.I rather have my peace.The rest of the spurs fans are "simple" ? you bet I think there are some idiots who have posted here.Sorry.BTW, i also think you are a arrogant a** whether you can see it in yourself or not.
Berbatov is GOING to a superstar; in a spurs shirt or not. I HOPE he would be "legend" for us.He would be courted by the likes of Madrid in time to come and you hear it first from me...
1:54 AM, November 28, 2006
Look, given your post time and your grammer, clearly English isn't your first language. Maybe some of what I said at 5pm was "lost in translation", but I didn't mean to appear "arrogant". We are all Spurs fans, and I too HOPE (sic) Berbs becomes a legend. I just hate it whan that word is tossed about so easily. So far, it's early days and this team hasn't won shit all....yet!
As for "fair weather fans", my comment was meant as a dig at those fickle posters who DO rant after a loss (not me). Only a few games ago, these same fans were calling Berbs shit, saying that Jol & Levy overspent on him, etc. My point was simply intended to illustrate how a player who is class somewhere else doesn't become crap overnight, and that any Euro import should be afforded TIME before anyone calls him shit OR a legend! Peace brother. COYS!!
3:47 AM, November 28, 2006
BTW - my post times are also odd -- as I'm in North America. Still keeping up with every kick at the Lane, though!! Cheers fellow yids.
3:49 AM, November 28, 2006
Yes, we have not won anything yet.We haven't even attain the kind of consistency that the top sides have to achieve things.
But I think like most of us, we could not have been more optimistic in years despite our poor start this season.
We all have been dreaming of a messiah a talisman a superman who would lead the team into significance.Berbatov have all the technical qualities to do that.Whether he has the character to do that remains to be seen.
Whether we want to admit it or not, there were times we have cast envious eye over the other side of North London and say how we could do with that black player with fleet footwork who score goals for fun.
COYS !
4:26 AM, November 28, 2006
Who gives a fuck about your bathroom you perv
6:50 PM, November 28, 2006
Say what?
7:30 PM, November 28, 2006
A song for Berbatov to the tune of Jesus Christ Superstar
Dimitar Berbatov
He looks like a gangster
He's our Berbatov
12:19 PM, November 29, 2006
liverpool can sniff around all they like, scouse wankers make me laugh..
11:24 PM, November 30, 2006
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