"It is better to fail aiming high than to succeed aiming low. And we of Spurs have set our sights very high, so high in fact that even failure will have in it an echo of glory." Bill Nicholson. SPURS


Saturday, July 23, 2005

Spurs Vs. Lyon

Spurs staggered there way to the Peace Cup Final on Thursday with an unconvincing 1-1 with Real Sociedad. Nevertheless we are there are should be ready to play one of the better teams in Europe who regulary play "Champions" League football. It will be a good test to see how far we are progressing as a squad.

I did wonder about the wisdom of entering The Peace Cup earlier in the season but looking back it has been a good tournament. Spurs have generally played well especially when you consider the match fitness issue. We have also been able to experiment with player positions (Tainio) against good opposition to see what they can really do.

Based on what I have seen over the last week I would stick Cerny back in goal. Fulop had a good game against the Spanish but I never once saw him communicate with the back four. The Eurosport feed did tend to miss a lot of corners so I could be completely wrong on that point but Cerny did seem to command his box more and looked more confident as well. Along the back I would recall King to play alongside Gardner. Tony has had a good tournament I feel and knows King well. Kelly and Edman will continue in the full back positions.

In the middle of the park I would play Carrick alongside Mendes who has been excellent. I would push Tainio out on the left with Routledge on the right. Lennon can always come on if Routledge fails to impress.

In the forward positions I would start with Keane and Kanoute. They will be fresher than Defoe and Mido who both played the majority of the game on Thursday.

It would be a great boost to win the cup against stronger opposition and would set us up nicely with around 3 weeks to go before the opener against Portsmouth. However a defeat would not be the end of the world as it is still only pre-season. We had a shocking pre-season last year and then had a great start. This pre-season, so far, has been fantastic compared with the last one.



Anonymous Coley said...

I think we have done well to get this far. Can't see the boys beating Lyon on Sunday. That said, it's a funny old game and with a bit of luck who knows, after all 1.2 million would come in handy!

9:12 PM, July 23, 2005

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heart says Spurs head says 3-0 Lyon

9:49 PM, July 23, 2005

Anonymous Anonymous said...

i think spurs will poo all over lyon. a nice cruddy one if were lucky

9:58 PM, July 23, 2005

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Paxton Road,

Re: your midfield-related comments..

I wish to disagree with your assertion that Jol should "push Tainio out on the left."

Although Tainio is versatile and may well play anywhere across the midfield, I believe Jol will opt for Zeigler/Reid on the left.

Zeigler may also get a few games at RB, but he needs to play (and IMO deserves to after his outstanding debut season).

I agree with you on the right regarding Routledge, but not with your confidence that "Lennon can always come on if Routledge fails to impress."

I feel the jury will be very much out on Lennon, as he is very young and unproven at this level (although he has looked pacey so far!)

Don't forget about Marney, who deserves a chance I think. I don't see him making the RB position his, as Kelly, Stalteri and Pamarot will be ahead of him there. Marney may have to go out on loan again, otherwise.

In the middle, the big question is Carrick and who? Tainio, Davis, Mendes or Brown? Tough one, but Jol has already hinted, claiming he's very "impressed" with Tainio.

This, however, fails to take into account one important player... Huddlestone, who I think will play a bigger part with each passing week (much like Dawson did late last season). But where will Jol play him -- midfield, CB, sweeper?

On top of all this, Spurs are still rumoured to be looking at buying a Guti or some other attacking midfielder. Very interesting to see how this all plays out.

The cockerel's cupboard at WHL is getting quite crowded, and some room may have to be made soon!

The sack may be the first job for Spurs new "Director of Football" -- whomever he is.

10:20 PM, July 23, 2005

Anonymous Anonymous said...

oops, after all that, forgot to post my "handle"...

Cheers fellow Yids,
Waddle's Mullet

10:21 PM, July 23, 2005

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ziegler is back in the UK, so won't be available against Lyon.

10:32 PM, July 23, 2005

Blogger brian draycott said...

Zieglers not the only one in the UK so are Stalteri,Brown Pamerot and Davis - makes a mockery of the comments by Anonymous!!

10:38 PM, July 23, 2005

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oops again, I should also mention that I see you were referring to the upcoming game against Lyon in your remarks, whereas my comments do refer to the upcoming season (I know that Zeiger, for instance, is not currently with the senior squad at the Peace Cup). Sorry for the confusion. At any rate, do you agree for the long-term?

Waddle's Mullet

10:48 PM, July 23, 2005

Anonymous Bagels4TeaMum said...





thats my dream line up for the season start,if they can all stay fit,

RK:lot to prove this season,spurs true legend status up for grabs

FK:unlike most,I still see Freddy as an asset, silky skills that are pleasing on the eye,just enough effort to make you believe he's actually interested in the result...etc etc

MB: Make or break a shed load to prove,flashes shown..go for the kill mate...or back to the championship with wigan in january

Back 3 we can do better (not you King Led's),,but until we buy them, they the best 3 we got,But could all potentialy blow it, hope not though as im a believer,(but we are Spurs, our track record aint great)

PR...nuff said, best in the land (but Cerney looks tasty back up)

well thats my lot,,cant believe i posted my rambings


10:52 PM, July 23, 2005

Anonymous Bagels4TeaMum said...


this has fuck all to do with the Lyon game

10:54 PM, July 23, 2005

Anonymous Bagels4teamum said...



10:56 PM, July 23, 2005

Anonymous Anonymous said...

True, what more can you say about the Lyon game? It is what it is... a pre-season look at some different combinations and young up-and-comers with the "dangling carrot" of a few extra quid for a win! I'll be pleased if the players return in shape and without injuries!

Waddle's Mullet

10:59 PM, July 23, 2005

Anonymous CLICKME!!!!..NOW said...

y not click you..or click me

11:00 PM, July 23, 2005

Anonymous HELP IS HERE said...

you need help

11:02 PM, July 23, 2005

Anonymous Bagels4teamum said...

it is what it is and it aint much else,,apart from 1.2 mill in the pocket for fuck all effort until tomorrow,,whats the league cup worth in hard cash terms (europe excluded) about the same,give or take a few hundred grand i suspect..and this is pre season after all, we could be playing Hendon FC (no disrespect) to a crowd on 600 for a warm up,but this is cash mate! and a nice little pay'd for by the moonies bonding exercise ..mone can't buy that sort of love

11:12 PM, July 23, 2005

Blogger Paxton Road said...

Yes, for the season I would prefer Ziegler over the other options over on the left but I suspect Reid will be playing regardless of form...

11:28 PM, July 23, 2005

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Marney has never been a right back. He will never start at right back in competitive games, nor will he start anywhere else. The same with Bunji at left back. It's never gonna happen.

12:09 AM, July 24, 2005

Anonymous Anonymous said...

And Michael Brown isn't a premiership player by a long way.

12:11 AM, July 24, 2005

Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's ZIEgler not Zeigler, it's not hard! Bloddy hell.

12:27 AM, July 24, 2005

Anonymous Anonymous said...

wheres all the poo gone ive soiled my trousers

2:14 AM, July 24, 2005

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hopefully i'll go to the pub and watch the game tomorrow, going to try and get one of my girl spurs fans to come with. dont know why im posting here because none of you give a damn.

come on the lilywhites!

2:39 AM, July 24, 2005

Anonymous Anonymous said...

mendes is best midfielder we have got

2:51 AM, July 24, 2005

Anonymous Anonymous said...

we have looked shoddy at the back in korea. Reid still looks overweight. Tiano looks good, why not play him and Mendes in the middle. Carrick seems to be jol's favourite. want Keano 2 stay, would like to c Saviola and Guti join. how about giving Ifil a chance ? Brown aint classy at all.

2:59 AM, July 24, 2005

Anonymous fat turk said...

spot on. match is on at 9 am so no pub will b open at that time

3:02 AM, July 24, 2005

Anonymous fat turk said...

Carrick got all excited when heard the news about Guti, thinking it was Gucci and that he was getting a new handbag 2 carry during games.

3:07 AM, July 24, 2005

Anonymous fat turk said...

in cyprus and when i get back to britain i hope 2 b slim turk so i can fit in my seat better

3:10 AM, July 24, 2005

Anonymous jerry the berry said...

lay off all the kebabs then and you may fit through the turnstiles.

3:13 AM, July 24, 2005

Anonymous london calling said...

is this stalteri any good ?

3:28 AM, July 24, 2005

Anonymous said...

it will b hard against lyon but good experiance

3:31 AM, July 24, 2005

Anonymous craigwilkinson said...

none of you have a fuckin clue what your talkin about all you go on about is shit

4:18 AM, July 24, 2005

Anonymous Anonymous said...

In my opinion Gardner has been out of place but I was pleased what I saw in Dawson and Davenport. For example the goal Real S scored against was partly Gardners clumsyness. And in some cor ners he has been wondering nowhere near his mark.

I say. Give him a loan deal and an environment where to get his act together or sell him but at the moment we must have a better CB to field alongside King.

Tainio looks very good and so does Mendes.

8:32 AM, July 24, 2005

Anonymous Anonymous said...

All you doubters eh! 2-0 up and not even played quarter of the game, Mido and Routledge are superb

9:26 AM, July 24, 2005

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why the f**k does every website say this game was starting at 11:00? I got up this morning, turned on my TV to settle down and watch the match and there was 3 minutes to go. Anyone else experience this?

11:05 AM, July 24, 2005

Anonymous yid army said...

got my watch set to b.s.t . the web site did state 9 am. nice result, tiano looking good and played well but still ropey at back. bunjy aint a left back. keane has got to stay and sign new deal, he works harder than defoe.

11:19 AM, July 24, 2005

Anonymous box holder said...

would be nice if as fans we could get behind the team more and start making more noise

11:23 AM, July 24, 2005

Anonymous Coley said...

Is it really necessary to use foul and abusive langauge?
A tremendous start to the match followed by a good solid 20 minutes from the Lillywhites,finished off by a determined spirited second half meant that we got what we deserved...a win!
Martin Jol is a good manager, Wayne Routledge actually looks prepared to take on the opposition down the outside. Michael Carrick looks every part an International, with Mido, Keane and Cerny all playing above their 2004/05 season average. Equals 1.2 million in the bank and every Spurs fan dreaming of more cups and success. let's hope Daniel & Martin can fulfil those dreams!
Heard the one about David returning to "The Lane? Rumour? Maybe, but there is no smoke with out fire. After all Victoria loves England!

7:51 PM, July 24, 2005

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Top quality result against a top quality team. As per we are looking great going forward but shaky at the back. Despite all our creativity i think we need a real loony a la freund
to knock 10 bells out everyone (who can forget "SHOOOOOOOOOOOT" every time the comedy german got the ball?!) Having a few doubts about brown, davis, bunjy (forgot we still had him!!) and maybe even edman...the future still looks exciting though....COYS!!!!!

ps...paxton, just looked on your profile from ongar?

4:37 PM, July 25, 2005

Anonymous Anonymous said...

ps...the last post was from me...ryuumac (i have a top quality source at fortress london so will keep you posted) pps: i wonder if we got dalmat some counselling whether he would be worth another shot?

4:41 PM, July 25, 2005


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