"It is better to fail aiming high than to succeed aiming low. And we of Spurs have set our sights very high, so high in fact that even failure will have in it an echo of glory." Bill Nicholson. SPURS


Monday, January 09, 2006

Pathetic defending cost Spurs home tie but good news around the corner.

I'm not going to delve into the game in too much detail as it is too depressing to throw away a two goal lead once again to lose a match 3-2. Even worse, it was to Championship opposition.

We had two main problems yesterday. The inability to defend with Kelly and Gardner being particularly bad and Rasiak proving that he is a useless piece of crap. If he put some effort in then it would not be so bad but he lacks pace and almost refused to jump for any high ball. Whichever scout thought they saw potential in him should be shot as far as I am concerned and he should never pull on the shirt of Tottenham Hotspur ever again if he is not going to give 100% in every game.

However, there is some good news as MattJB, a credible source of information over at COYS suggests a signing soon to cheer as all up as well as some of the rubbish being shipped on pretty soon as well.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is there any info on who the signing is?

6:23 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

When you say rubbish i'm thinking Gardner, Rasiak, Kelly and Brown but cetainly not Mendes or Davis. Looking forward to "thats harsh on Brown & Kelly" comments coming up.

6:26 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I read that as 'hash on Brown' but maybe thats me thinking of having a fry-up this evening....

Brown should stay, Gardner should be shot

6:30 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Samfou said...

Dead right about Rasiak and the Scout! Derby must be laughing there head off because we paid 2 million for a lazy son of a B*****. MJ should have taken him off and play 4-5-1 with Tanio when it was 2-2. I was angry at MJ for keeping him on the pitch, I couldn't believe it. Let's hope we buy a decent player this time..

6:33 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kelly isn't a left back. We should get cover for YP Lee.

Gardener has never been good enough.

Brown is 1st Division.

And Rasiak was just awful. No where near good enough.

I hope we sign Walcott & Iaquinta.

6:34 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Raisak was rubbish yes. But when we're without Mido, we have to make do and hope he gains in confidence. Again, yes, he was crap, but an attitude like yours saying that he should be turfed after one full game is ridiculous! Yes, we need better cover than him but Jol has said there will be nothing major happening in the Jan window so get behind the lanky Pole and give him a chance!

RE: Gardner, he worked hard but struggled with the physicality of the De Vries chap.

As for Kelly. Transfer request? Good bye and good riddance.

6:36 PM, January 09, 2006

Blogger Yer_but_naybet said...

word on the street is that it could well be corradi or castelan

6:37 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The reason there was so much pressure on the defence was that Rasiak, who is without doubt the worst player to pull on a Spurs shirt since Stuart Nethercott, was unable to hold the ball up in their half. Every time the ball went towards Rasiak it came back immediately, usually without him touching it. If an adequate replacement is not obtained for Mido during the African Nations then all the good work will be undone and the Goonshite will pass us in the League. Alternatively play Defoe with Keane as surely that is better than any permutation with Rasiak.

In addition unfortunately i have to say that Gardener is a liability!

6:37 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I totally agree that Gardner and Rasiak were awful last night. Rasiak did not win one header from what I can remember. Strange considering how tall he is. He did nothing all game. We might as well have played with ten men. I pray that we sign someone as cover for Mido when he goes to the African Nations cup. And as for Gardner, I thought he had a good game against Man City, so my confidence in him was raised only for him to play as badly as he did yesterday. He was completely the opposite to Dawson who battles for everything. Gardner's positional sence at times is bad, and he is far too casual with his play. God help us against Liverpool.

6:38 PM, January 09, 2006

Blogger Dan Mac said...

It wasn't Gardners fault (entirely), it was down to the whole defence na d(especially) Jol, for not thinking of the one simple way to stop Leicester's attack. Every attack they had was, long ball to De riers, who would back into the most lightweight 6"5 centre back I've ever seen, bring it down on his chest and lay it off, without that they got no where. so simple solution (no rocket science degree required), Kelly comes round when the long ball's played up, and stands in front of De Vriers, with Gardner behind, with 11 pro footballers on the field (if Raziak is indeed a pro), and endless amounts of subs coaching staff and a very good manager, you would have thought 1 of them would have thought of this!!

Also Kelly is absolute shite, along with the obvious Polish twat, but I do actually think you were a bit harsh on Brown who ever said it) as he didn't do anything wrong in the second half, just that, like the rest of the team (inc' 'super stars' Keane and Carrick) he didn't do much right, he was no worse than anyone else.

Positives from the game (there were some) were Stalteri (nothing to do with his goal) and Lennon! Back to the prem, and hopefully that was the kick up the arse we needed!

6:40 PM, January 09, 2006

Blogger Dan Mac said...

Also, New Spurs site up and running.....

all supporters and nviews are welcome.

Seperate forum for Spurs fans to discuss anything to do with the club, along with our cross banter forum, where supporters of any team (usually Arsenal) come on for a bit of banter!

Dan Mac

6:45 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

RASIAK IS CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!! He embarressed us on national tele. He surely can't be allowed to play again.

6:45 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...





6:47 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why don't we bring back Huddlestone from his loan at Wolves. He looks a classy player and would much rather him in defence instead of Gardner. AND GET RID OF THE POLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

6:49 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmm , THE SAME source that assured us yesterday Mido was on his way back and in the starting Line up!!!
You have NO sources execpt tomato and daddies. Stop making up rubbish to gain hits!!!!!!

6:50 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kelly asked for Transfer request? :) he's Fuckin' shit Gardner,Brown and Ra_shit)Please go!! they are awful, Gardner needs at least 4 touches to control the ball, Brown is just shit he can't even run properly and Ra_shit well I don't know how he got this far, he played for Tottenham well I think I got a chance to play for Brazil.

6:52 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok *Cracks Knuckles*

Kelly - Played out of position, but thats no excuse. Bags of talent, but played with no confidence or concentration last night - must do better when given an opportunity to perform or bye bye. He should either be at right back, with Stalteri at Left back (As he can play left or right apparently) OR Pamarot at RB instead of Kelly.

Brown - Always a hard worker, and had a couple of decent attempts on goal. Spoke volumes for him that we didn't miss Davids too much against Man City if anyone remembers that far back? 100%'ers are hard players to come by. Keep him if he's happy to fight for his place.

Rasiak - No doubt he had an absolute nightmare last night. Defoe should start with Keane as they are 2 very intelligent players who can adapt. Keane is capable of heading/holding up the play when needed, and besides, no-one needs to HOOF it upfield all the time. Whatever happened to neat one-two's??? Please note everyone Keane beat a couple of defenders with a header for the opening goal...

Gardner - Showed more confidence, but the talent as a defender is sadly lacking. Note to coaching staff, when King is absent, play either Naybet or Pamarot in the centre. It amazes me Naybet wasn't first to come in when King was injured as he is the perfect replacement.

6:54 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

We can carry on blaming the players, and yes Kelly, Gardner and Rasiak were bad, but really Jol must start to take the blame. After yesterday, everyone can see that if you a mediocre team, all you have to do to beat Spurs is close down the mid-field (West Brom, Leicester and the Laegue Cup exit). Jol has not coached the mid-field in playing together as a unit, other than passing to Carrick, and Carrick square to full-backs or Central Defenders. Once he is put under pressure, the whole plan fails.
Also, yesterday when we needed mid-field players to get a grip, Jol took off Brown who was at least trying to get stuck-in and replaces him with DeFoe, and needless to say he was totally ineffective as usual, and we lost even more control as Robbie Keane will never make a mid-field player.
We had ome match winner on the pitch, Aaron Lennon, but we only gave him the ball 2 or 3 times, and to be fair, as we have absolutely no-one who can head a ball, even when the great Mido is playing, you have to question whether it is worth Lennon wasting his time with us.
For me, Jol must accept a large share of the blame. He has not coached the strikers how to play as unit (even when we have Mido we never really look like crafting a goal by good positional play or inter-play between the strilkers)and really all we saw yesterday was what we have seen in the League over the year....we do not play as a team and the individuals with few exceptions are not good enough to get results on their own.
Yes we are 4th at the moment, but unless Jol can show that he knows how to coach we will not stay anywhere near that prediction remains 9th.

6:56 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gardner is getting a lot of stick which i think is, in part, unfair. I acknowledge he didnt have a great game yesterday but neither did Daws or Kelly. I believe his calmness and assuredness is often mistaken for lazyness or some other negative trait. I believe that his calmness is an attribute as is his confidence that he can deal with the ball at his feet. Compare this to Dawson's no nonsense approach which led to him conceding the corner which led to west spam's equaliser. I think daws and Gardner have similar potential and also Gardner has contributed more to our cause that Dawson (since he has played more games)they could both turn out to be top class, rather than decent premiership players which they currently are.

I for one think it would be a waste to sell him for 2 mill, we would definately regret tat down the line.

6:56 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

gardner kelly rasiak brown r bunch muppets and way they played against leicester was embarrassing !! mj be lucky to give em away

6:59 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Got to agree with the comments

Kelly - poor nor come on let him go

Davis - looked good for fulham but back up at best & injury prone

Mendes - always looks ok but won't get in the side so again backup, he can go if he wants

Brown - see Mendes (we only need to keep 1 of the 3 mids & as Brown seems happiest in a res. role i'd keep him, also he can get stuck in if needed)

& then Rasiak & Gardener - oh my god, I read on one of these sites recently that Big Tony Gardener was ok as a back up "NO". He's always had the attributes (Pace, Size etc) but he can't jump or head the ball, he's not that bulky & gets shoved around, oh and he can't defend for sh*t! He looses concentration and I've seen him staring at the sky mind wandering away someplace else!
I agree should be shot any one up for chipping in for a hit man?
& Finally the big Pole - Rubbish!
nuff said on that get rid to WOlves if they've offered 1.5m or any amount really
Surely Defoe (even though he's playing Arse & has done pretty much since signing his new contract early last year) is better with Keane no matter how small, Rasiak is only there to hold the ball up if he can't do that he offers nothing else, we would have been better trying Big Tony up there (anything to keep him away from our goal!)

We need a big striker quickly & possibly a left back (for cover) & a left winger would also be nice.

7:00 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's the same comments all over the Spurs Boards - let's hope MJ can see what is so obvious to all of us and take some decisive action before our season folds completely.

7:00 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guys these forums have turned into fucking essays.Gardner,Kelly and Browny are getting too much stick from you faithless pricks.All the pressure was on the two centre halves yesterday cos our midfield couldn't get a string of passes going.Browny had a bad game but so does everyone,he's a bloody good player.As for Kelly,who in fact was playing out of position had the hardest job,stop giving the boy stick,he's quality and didn't have a bad game yesterday.Rasiak-fuck off back to Derby!!!

7:04 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have heard mendes and davis will leave at the end of this week with a Striker arriving very soon my ears are very close to a member of staff

7:07 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes we can and should blame Jol - but the players brought in didn't respond to the call to perform on the night.
The one thing you can rely on with big old Martin is... when we have a bad performance or lose...he sorts it out by next game. We should play well against Liverpool, as they struggled against Luton. No room for complacency but Jol has a habit of whipping the squad into shape after a bit of a downer - plus the players have a bit to prove now!

7:15 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...


What is this RASIAK doing in the Spurs team ???

At the Leicester game he was running slowly around like he was in a social game.
He lack the ability to position himself on the pitch.
He never got ball contact to long balls from our defence, the Leicester defenders who had an easy job covering him, won the ball all the time.
His service to the other players was shocking.
His technical ability is also very poor.
Even his attempts on goal was a joke.

If Jol is using him again it will ruin our season.


Kelly also looked more than rusty. Maybe because he was on the left, as he is a right back, but he really looked without any motivation.

Spurs is in big trouble as long as RASIAK is on the team sheet.

7:15 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Charlton want Gardner someone should drive him over right now. £2m for him! if we get away with not paying him anymore wages I would settle for that. I can't think of one good thing about him and to be honest never understood the 'highly rated' tag he is always given.

Exactly the same for Kelly I hope MJ had a word in the dressing room and explained he will never play for Spurs again.

Rasiak. After WBA I thought give him a real chance and he produces this.

I am fed up of being let down by these players who are simply not interested. Its the fans who have to take the crap at work cause their team have had their pants pulled down on national TV.

Another thing if MJ knows how the Spurs play football why are we a long ball team? You don't need a big man little man combo playing on the deck.

7:31 PM, January 09, 2006

Blogger banger said...

Everyone is being a bit harsh on here! I can understand the stick Rasiak is getting maybe even Gardener, but Brown is a good squad player to have. He was one of the better players at Man City and allways gives his all.
And Kelly has done a good job when playing at Right back but doesn't look comfortable on the left.

I really hope Lennon doesn't leave that boy has pace and talent all wrapped up in a little 4ft package!

7:45 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Other than he can't head, kick or control a ball, Gardener is a good player!!!! get rid of the clown NOW

7:46 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

if we get corradi we gonna have another flop,he's been shit with valencia,not doing so good with parma now,so why should we think he'l be good with spurs,as for rasiak he's fuckin rubbish,useless git

7:48 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our right side was the only positive with Lennon and Stalteri looking very good together. The other nine seemed very lethargic and I thought Dawson wasn't much better than Gardner.

7:52 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are all hurt by yesterday's performance and it's only natural that we should look for reasons. Gardner and Kelly never fill me with any confidence and they would not have played had it not been for our injuries. They are not, and never will be, premiership material and the sooner we get rid of them the better. MJ has got it right in their case but I am afraid I cannot say the same regarding Pedro Mendes. How MJ's mind works is a mystery to me; most supporters will definitely agree that he is so much better than Brown who is a waste of space. He cannot control the ball, he does not make a decent pass with the ball but he does run around like a headless chicken. Poor Rasiak did not win a single header during the whole match and like the gentleman who posted a comment before me I would like to know who was responsible for his acquisition. I seem to recall that MJ has said that he will score goals - I am sure he was having a laugh at our expense. By all means blame the players for yesterday's defeat but MJ must shoulder some of the responsibility.

I like the man but he is guilty of favouritism.

7:58 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was at the game yesterday - my girlfriend's family are Leicester season ticket holders so I thought I'd take advantage and go and watch us beat them. You have no idea what it was like sitting with the Leicester fans, pretending to cheer their winning goal. Oh dear. All Gardner did all night was jump up and down behind DeVries - who - I have to say is usually Leicester's worst player. As for Kelly, I didn't even realise he was playing until I read comments on this forum! Rasiak, well, whenever he jumped for the ball, and that wasn't often, he was about three feet away from where it eventually landed. And that's being very generous. I would have taken him off after 2 minutes... Play this team again and we forget the Champion's league, or any more points at all for that matter! Whinge moan, whinge.

7:58 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

kelly is a right bacvk not a left back so dnt blame him, brown is a great player for tottenham. rasiak should fuck off and sign tht Udinese striker :D. sell reid and buy downin instead.

7:58 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Calm down, calm down, calm down!

Yes, shite perfomance, we got what we deserved but don't always default to the same scapegoats. Brown HAS played well this season in his limited opportunities, Kelly can't really be judged on his one (?) outing this year so far. Rasiak, ok - not Prem quality but we all (Jol inc) knew that when we signed him. Gardner remains an enigma : remember his excellent performance v Henry a couple of seasons back yet doesn't seem to have the power required. We needed a steadying influence (King, Davids) and were found wanting - Naybet would have been ideal last night.

Let it go now - we can't change anything. All our rivals for Europe have busy schedules : we can become Zen like and focus single pointedly on our Champions League spot. Let's get behond them - the run-in starts here...

8:04 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why are people are excusing Kelly for being a RB played at LB?! Christ, like it makes any difference?! It would make no difference to his thoughtless back header which almost gave em a goal in the first minutes, nor as to whether he should have challenged for the header which did give em a goal, nor whether he should have taken the one-on-one.

No no no. Poor effort from a guy who may have handed in his transer request and didn't seem bothered about the club any more.

challenged for th eheader

8:17 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous cheshunt yid said...

for fucks sake !!! im a massive spurs fan like the rest of you, but jesus !!! last week against brown all we said was brown was class. kellys 1st game of the season - out of position at left back, but yes, was ball watching for 1st goal. gardner - not the best game he'll ever have, fell asleep in the last minute.rasiak - fuck him off to wolves for 1.5 mil if hod wants him, will never be premiership class. god help us if he has to play against liverpool saturday. get behind the lillywhites - europe here we come.

8:19 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kelly's a gd player and still only young and hasnt played in a long time hes worth keeping we need a new striker tho 1 that can keep the ball and pass it to a spurs player

8:19 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous cheshunt yid said...

kelly played shit - doesnt matter if you're a left or right back - if the ball is in the air you fucking head it !! rasiak played like a twat - god help us if he plays against liverpool. if hoddle wants him he can have him - sell him for 1.5 mil and take a loss.
sign a quality striker in the mido mould and cover at left back and we wont go far wrong. end of the signings then - ship a few out and let the squad develop over the next year or so.

8:33 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another one who was at the game last night.

Right along side the Leicester City fans who were totally subdued at 2 - 0 down. Boy, were we repaid in spades!!

Up till now I'd always wanted to give Rasiak a chance. I thought that if it took Peter Crouch god know how many games to break his duck then surely Rasiak deserves a chance. You know what - I was wrong. A poor first touch, weak in the air, worse than that, seemed half hearted at times, as though he knows he's on the way out.

Still not sure about Gardner. When he plays well, he looks ok. But last night he looked like Bambi on ice. Think someone else said it - let's get Huddlestone back. If it took Dawson no more than half a dozen games to establish himself then maybe Huddlestone the same.

Harsh on Kelly - first full game of the season? Mind you, his chance on goal showed as much. As for Brown - lay off! He's not our most talented but he's not our worst and I've never seen him give less than 100%.

The one bright spot - Aaron Lennon. The future!!


8:39 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was dissapointed Jol didn't make the tactical adjustment when Leiceste brought on Elvis in the 1st half.

Moreover, I suspect that the reason we played long balls to Rasiak all night was because the awful pitch wouldn't allow us to play 1-2's along the ground.

Having said that... Rasiak was dissapointing, mostly because he didn't put himself about and showed no passion or desire, which is inexcusable in an FA Cup match and when you're fighting for your place in the team.

Kelly too seemed largely dissinerested, which is perhaps to be expected from a player who has asked for a transfer out (and was playing out of position in what may be his last game for Spurs).

Tony G was trying, but doesn't have the understanding with Dawson that Ledley has. I think he needs a change of scenery to jumpstart his flagging career... besides, it's time to give Huddlestone a real chance.

Brown tries to get stuck in like Davids, which is why he played over Mendes, whose style is too similar to Carrick for the two to play together in the same midfield. Brownie is still here because he is a good squad player, never whinges and is popular with the other lads.

Like many others I'd like to see Rasiak, Kelly, Tony, Bunji, et al depart, with a left winger, left back, and striker brought in asap to salvage the season.

Waddle's Mullet

8:42 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok heres what I think

Kelly - was out of position and he’s been out of the team all season, I saw every game last year and he was playing great, even got a few goals towards the end of the season.

Gardner - Can’t really disagree with what you say, he’s just not good enough, has no confidence at all, every time he gets the ball he panics. Get Huddlestone back, perfect cover for Daws or King

Brown - Can play great, but a squad player, if we have a problem on the left side we don’t need to buy anyone, get Ziegler back he played well last season, he can play either in mid or at the back so cover for Lee too, don’t even think he’s playing in Germany.

Rasiak - So far he’s been crap, but we have hardly given him a chance, he used to get loads of goals at Derby, unfortunately we cant risk waiting for him to learn how to play in the big league, Vieri on loan would be perfect.



8:47 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

there seem to be lots of bits of transfer gossip around, with some of the more credible pieces making sense if you put the bits together.

Walcott turned down Chelsea and will sign. Spurs will pay £3m for Walcott with Rasiak thrown in as part of the deal. This figure goes up to at least £8.5 million based on appearances, caps, etc. Saints will keep Walcott til the end of the season If Reading come up then he will be loaned to them as he lives in Newbury and will then get prem exposure without having to leave home at 16. All being lined up supposedly.
Corradi will come on a loan move until the end of the Year when Spurs have lined up someone who has been discussed recently. Kuyt?

The Vlaar experience left Levy and Jol p****d off so they are keeping everything close to their chest.

Like I said at the start though, possibly all just gossip.

8:48 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dispair!!! Kelly has not had a regular place all season and when he does play he plays like a Rymans league player. Rasiak was a shower of sh#t all night. He couldn't head the ball, couldn't pass to a Spurs player and has already been pointed out we would have been better playing with 10 men! My main criticim is for that lanky streak of pi#s Gardner. He is so f#cking crap it is unbelievable!!! Why have we not sold him in seasons gone by. He has never played a good game and in a strange way is much like Phil Neville in the sense that you know at some point in the game he will c#ck up and give a goal to the opposition. Come on MJ sell the crap and get Huddlestone back as cover. Pass the ball the Spurs way and play Defoe and Keen together for half a dozen games and let them thrive!!!

9:08 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

When did Kelly ask for a transfer?

9:12 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lovingly put 9:08! Why do you think MJ has them playing the long ball all the time. Mido's feet are surely as good as his head. Carrick and Jenas are supposed to be good as distributing passes after all, right? Is is because we have no real left winger? Reid is shite and Ziegler was sent to eat saurkraut.

Waddle's Mullet

9:18 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous robbo the yid said...

we ave all now discussed rasiak shall we now discuss his good points eh !!
on second thoughts lets not his main bad point was he stepped on the pitch after watching him at WBA/aston villa i thought that was the last we would see of him but no
he pops up again whoever scouted him needs actual help!!! because nobody in the right mind would have brought him after seeing him
now to his bad points
1] 6ft watever cant lift his feet off the grnd
2]no positional sense always seems miles away from play
3]cant hold up the play
4]lacks ball control
5]no pace
6]no brain!!!
7]looks like his playing on another pitch
8]no brain!!!
9]no brain!!
ans to other peoples questions
naybet is in the african cup
kelly is a right back no matter wat and resonable one like a lot of players doesnt ave a left foot
should have been coached into him
gardner lacks concentration bigtime
anyway lets hope martin learns from this !

9:36 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Martin ... please go get Stuart Downing... now!

9:41 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

when peter crouch was doing appallingly bad over at liverpool, we must have all rubbed our hands with glee that we got shot of him as a youngster, rather than face the embarrasment having him fluff his lines in a lillywhites shirt. however, look at the tremendous support he received from the fans and the club, and now he is doing very well for himself and could take defoes place in the england squad. maybe if we were to get behind rasiak he would come good? just a thought

9:48 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Beanpole is only in the England squad for his height and his head. He and Rasiak are both shite, and neither should play for Spurs - ever.

9:56 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

...sorry ... STEWART Downing...

9:57 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmm, so this is what I think for what its worth...Brown is a squad player, and when asked to do a job he will do it to the best of his ability? Nuff said....Gardener, much as I like the lad, he has proven too many times his inconsistency, never gonna change, tata....Kelly, out of position, give the lad a break, he will get better/stronger with age...Rasiak, embarrassing, goodbye....We need to get Ziegler back, give Huddlestone some games, and buy a decent midfield/striker link man, like Kuyt, and a winger for the left, like Pederson...Downing wont be released by Boro, no way...

10:00 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gardner's weaknesses are his inability to cope with strong, physical strikers who knock him all over the place and a tendency to get caught in possession or. as against WBA, just giving them the ball in exposed positions. Kelly's performance was truly poor and he was badly at fault for the first goal. Rasiak did win one header in the second half and put another way over the bar. And that was it.

10:04 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why do you think MJ has loaned out Hud & Ziegler instead of making them 2nd choice in the big squad? Hud can cover for CB & CM, while Reto can cover LB & LM. That would allow the departures of quite a few extras who are evidently not up to doing the job at the present moment.


10:06 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see you all blame Brown, Kelly, Gardner and useless Rasiak.And yes, they did horrible yesterday.. But none of you have noticed that Stalteri is just pure shite. 9 out of 10 times he gives the opponent the ball and sometimes the 10th time aswell. He can't tackle, he often defends the left goalpost( he should be on the right side..) and he rarely manage to win anything in the air. In my opinion the only thing he is capable of, is running up and down the right wing.He should be kicked out of the club no later than tomorrow..
I don't care if he scored a fantastic goal,he is still a horrible player..
A norwegian spurs-fan

10:21 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm just hopning that no-one apart from us was watching the game the other night, cause if any of the clubs who were after kelly, brown, gardner or ra-shit-siak were watching, we might never get rid of them!!

10:36 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has anyone stopped to think about what was going on with the referee and the blatant fouling by DeVries. Why is it that Mido and to a lesser extent Rasiak are pulled up for the type of thing that DeVries was getting away with all night? Our defenders get penalised (Dawson v Sunderland a prime example)but completely different attitude up the other end with our forwards. Personally I thought Gardner was coping to the best of his ability given that the midfield allowed Leicester all the time in the world to lump the ball into the box. Law of averages dictates that one is going to pay off. Kelly had plenty of opportunity to deal with attack that lead to first goal and the defending at the corner for the second was woeful. Where was Brown going when the ball came to Hughes?

10:36 PM, January 09, 2006

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10:39 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree. Even the Leicester Manager has come out and praised the referee for allowing him to get away with it!

10:43 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:39 Go away gooner scum.

10:21 Whoa Waller. Hold up. Stalteri was shite? But he scores a great goal. All he can do is run up and down the wing? He's a wing-back for christsakes! He can't head the ball? That was that ponce, Rasiak's job.

10:53 PM, January 09, 2006

Blogger Steveqoz said...

A few coaching points:
Pick your best players available....find format to suit them...thus Defoe and Keane ought to start at the moment, it is the coaches job to blend their play.
Playing three centre backs is an option we have generally available
King, Dawson and Huddlestone/Davenport
This would allow Carrick/Jenas/Davids to be a central three in midfield
Play Lee andLeenon wide plus 2 of Defoe / Mido /Keane up front
Answer to left defence?
Buy Bridge from Chelsea
Answer to CF problem
Carlton Cole from Chelsea

10:55 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes yes Raziak - GOONER, Gardener - GOONER, both absolute PONY no doubt!
I'm sure, with a few more games, Kelly and Brown can do a job at The Lilly Whites. Let's not forget though, we were without the ever-young Davids in the side, but we still need a bit of steel in midfield (Brown). Carrick and Jenas aren't exactly the fiercest of tacklers in our squad. And boy do we miss DEDLEY LEDLEY ! ~ Bring back some of these players we spent ££££'s on and get them into the squad ( Davenport, Huddlestone )

10:59 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Never been a big fan of Bridge or Cole myself. Plus Arnesol & his Chelski fellas ain't loanin' em to us.

11:00 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

How does the great JOL not see how poor Rasiak has been on every appearance, get a decent target man in asap before the season goes off track. After the Grimsby tie we went on a mega run.

11:02 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

On the contrary, Carrick is a fine tackler. He doesn't use brute (like Davids or the plucky Brown), but rather his longs legs to win balls, before spraying his lazer-like passes around. But where was he last night...missing, as he's want to do from time to time. Jol will never sub him though. Indeed, perhaps it was Carrick (or Jenas) who should have made way for Tainio (much earlier methinks) instead of Lennon and Brown coming off????


11:07 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Would everyone agree that it is evident JOL does NOT rate the following players?
Mendes, Naybet, Reid, Rasiak, Kelly, and to a lesser extent, Davis. Also he doesn't feel Huddlestone and Ziegler are ready for the big show it appears. He let Edman go, but kept Pamarot... not sure quite why though (hey, that rhymes!)


11:20 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh shit.
Jol has got to show our players that the game ends on 90 mins and not at 2-0

All our early season hopes un done in the same usual way.
Where were our so called stars. Carrick,, Jenas .. Rasiak... Gardner.. Robnson... Kelly.
They were all shit and the rest were ordinary except Lennon.
Leicester were poor but were still too good for our lot.
And why do our fans spend the whole fuckin game singing the same old garbage songs about the arse.
Do we have to show them that we are totally obsessed with them ??.

They dont give a shit about us and on tonights performnace they have got no reason to .
Most of you lot are gettin too excited about our league position. In recent weeks we have been only adequate , struggling to beat a shit Birmingham and a garbage Man C

Now watch the scum catch us up.

On this form if we do get into europe we will struggle to get past fuckin calais..

11:25 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Spurs are on their way to Hornsey..

Ta for a fuckin good belly laugh ...

Clock End Goons

11:26 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

You missed my point 10:53. Why do we wan't a wing-back that can't do anything else but run...He can't pass the ball, he ain't able to tackle and never have i seen his crosses get in to our strikers.. If you want to tell me that he is a good player because he scored a great goal and that Rasiak(hopefully not)Mido and the other strikers\defenders are the ones to head the ball, you are not giving me the impression you know football..

11:35 PM, January 09, 2006

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11:59 PM, January 09, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brown, Kelly and Gardner were a bit unfortunate the other night.
Anyone remember last season when they all ran their socks for this great club and did well?
Rasiak is to slow and showed no technique and Stalteri is bent.
Still think he's shit after that fluke. Does anyone else see him give the ball away at every opportunity?

12:01 AM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Rob F said...

There's seems to be a pattern emerging here... and to be honest, after I watched the game I was furious like most of you are now. I was cursing Rasiak, Gardener, Kelly etc. but Ive been thinking about it all day and I'd say I've calmed down enough to comment;

We werent good, thats for sure. We were lazy, we were trying to play our prefered style even when we couldnt. Our ability to adapt to suit the game was non existent. However, some of you might not want to hear this but, Leicester deserve a bit of credit. They changed their game in the second half, pressured our players, made them pay for mistakes and they could see we were being lazy. I realise we should have stepped up the game, changed formation maybe, taken rasiak off, got Tainio or Defoe on instead, but we didnt and we got beat. But I'm starting to get really fed up with all the Spurs fans that come in here putting down players so badly. All the team was bad last night with the exception of Lennon and Stalteri who I felt worked their arses off so I dont think any player can be judged fairly on that performance. Gardener does look lazy when he plays but he has put in many good performances for us, Kelly has done the same plus he played out of position. Brown was also out of position and he at least tried to make it work. Rasiak, I know he's getting shite loads of stick and probably this is more than justified, but I feel he has the same problem as Defoe at the moment - they are too eager to impress and by doing so they play selfishly or irrationally and then this kicks their confidence more. Its a nasty cycle which is unfair. Rasiak is a good player. Ive seen him when he's good and he looks sharp and I know its daring of me to say it but Ive seen him play better than Mido. He has had a tough time since he's joined us. Im not making excuses for the game the other night, but Im getting really pissed off with all this damning talk that goes on in these forums. Grow up and SUPPORT your team. If a player plays badly, leave supporting messages on these forums. You never know... they might read all these forums and see this spiteful talk and that makes their confidence sink further. Act like your the best fans in the Premiership. Lets cheers all our players, no matter who, out onto the pitch on Saturday. Cheer on the players who are playing badly and see what difference it makes? Is that such a stupid suggestion?

12:01 AM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Final word, Rasiak is stupidly shit, should not be defended... he should be fired and shot in the face. I was a little sad to read that Kelly had handed in a transfer request.... watched him play.... now I'm happy he is going... Kelly please fuck off! Gardner is, and has always been shit, we should have called back Huddlestone and used him as cover for King... Gardner please fuck off. Brown is, and has always been shit, he may have the odd decent game but if we are serious about europe we can't have players like him in our squad.... Brown please fuck off. Mendes and Davis are good back-up players and should both be kept, its players like those two who could be dropped into stupid away cup ties against shit Championship sides and actually put in a solid performance and get a positive result. I'm not a huge fan of Keane and still think Defoe should be ahead of him, but I'm not about to say we should get rid of Robbie, we need to keep our three main strikers and sign another quality forward to compete with Mido (who still isn't a Spurs player... remember that, since Roma have off-loaded their top striker to Real he could get a look in again... his perfomances for us may have turned a few heads back in Italy). I would be lying if I said I don't care about the FA cup, however a top four finish in the league will make me forget about all this current bullshit.... oh and an away win at Liverpool too please! You owe it us after that performance Spurs!

Finally, Rasiak is fucking shit, should be KILLED, any takers.... lol! Jol needs to take that bad, BAD transfer on the chin, release him and buy someone else... anyone else... heck I don't care if he decides not to buy just get rid of Rasiak!

12:09 AM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Rob F said...

I dont agree with any of that "12:09 AM, January 10, 2006". Isnt it funny how everyone wants players that havent played in ages to replace the ones that do play, and judging by the way the lot of you think, if they played and played badly, you'd want them sold too! We'd go from having the largest squad in the Prem to smallest! I agree with the guy who said that Crouch was shit but he got loads of support and he's come good and scored a basket load. I dont rate him personally but he has started to score goals! Why dont we just get behind our players? Why is that so hard for some of you to do? Maybe we should sell you damning fans! Hows that sound? I hear Chelski are short of fans, maybe they'd like fans that put all their players down. They've got Essien there! Hes shit the whole time so you can bitch about him lots.

12:23 AM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck me, reading you lot rant after our 4th loss of the season is almost as depressing as losing to leicester. Virtually the whole team was fuckin awful so a bit difficult for anyone to have a good game especially at the back.
To the Faithless numpty who asked when it was that Gardener last had a good game, try man city. Didn't put a foot wrong. And Dawson played them onside for the decisive goal so why aren't you all calling for him to be sold. Take a fuckin valium and get behind them for the liverpool game the lot of you. We came back after grimsby and west brom and we can do the same again. We're still developing and will obviously stumble along the way. That's when our support is really needed so stop whinging and get behind the boys. Martin knows the score and he's working on it you impatient sods.

Go on the Spurs!

12:23 AM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Rob F said...

Haha Check out this link... this made me laugh.

Arsenal fans ranking things... whats REALLY funny is that they should really be fifth - just so they can set up camp cos thats where they are gunna finish up in the Premiership. Behind US! You time is up Goons, face it.


12:31 AM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

the great mistery is:

why do neither mendes or davis get a game??????

favouritism... i think so.

while mido's not around, try 4-5-1 with 3 in the middle, lennon and routledge on the wings, and keane and defoe alternating up front.

12:38 AM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Rob F said...

but then you'd be playing a winger out of position. I think its a crying shame we cant play Routledge and Lennon at the same time. Why cant one of them have a good left foot?

12:47 AM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

find it amazing that highly paid pros can't be bothered to try..everyone knows what can happen in the cup, Gardner will never do a good job, why did we buy Huddlestone&Davenport if we won't use them??.
Kelly wants a transfer, good riddance if he won't fight for a place don't want him.
Rasiak, enough already said.
Do agree though we must get behind the team, but players not willing to give100% every game can fuck off

12:47 AM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Rob F said...

I agree but that 100% should be given but still... the rotation has been bad and players are not match fit after they have been dropped for weeks. Defoe for example! Its been said SO many times now but Huddlestone needs to be getting Premiership experience, and should be learning from Davids. Without this he is missing out on valuable opportunities. Stop with all this damning talk though! Teams have their off days, and we've still had less than 10 this season! Thats good for us!

12:56 AM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Foreign fan said...

Mendes will be a better cover for Davids rather than Brown. Defoe with Keane maybe more effective than Rasiak with Keane. If MJ continues to field Rasiak, he may as well give Lee Barnard a chance! If Garner continues this kind of form, Bunjecevic will be smiling... Hahaha...

2:57 AM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...


What is this RASIAK doing in the Spurs team ???

At the Leicester game he was running slowly around like he was in a social game.
He lack the ability to position himself on the pitch.
He never got ball contact to long balls from our defence, the Leicester defenders who had an easy job covering him, won the ball all the time.
His service to the other players was shocking.
His technical ability is also very poor.
Even his attempts on goal was a joke.
Rasiak lacks both ability and desire.

If Jol is using him again it will ruin our season.


Kelly also looked more than rusty. Maybe because he was on the left, as he is a right back, but he really looked without any motivation.

Spurs is in big trouble as long as RASIAK is on the team sheet.

Martin Jol must be told NEVER to use Rasiak again in the Spurs team.

3:01 AM, January 10, 2006

Blogger Crob said...

i wanted to give Rasiak a chance...i really did despite all the bitching by every other spurs fan. But yesterdays game did indeed prove hes just not good enough for the premiership. Perhaps he'll pull a Acimovic or Postiga and be good in another league.

Kelly was quite not exactly sure why Stalteri didnt play on the left especially being as Brown drifts into the middle whereas Lennon is an out n out winger. I doubt his confidence and match fitness is very high though...i prefer him to Paramot.

Gardner can be very good on his day but is way to inconsistant and falls out the game. Hes been good at moments this season, but the past few games hes been complete crap.

Brown I like a lot. Hes not the most skillfull but hes very dedicated and raises the intensity of the game, in that aspect i see what MJ sees as him for a replacement for Davids.

Positionally tho i think that Davis plays similarly to Davids and couldve possibly been used. I dont really rate Davis and wont mind him leaving but he couldve been used as cover.

I do rate Mendes but there simply isnt much budging room behind Carrick (who plays a similar role)& co. Id love for him to go out on loan but he deserves to be in a first team squad so if he goes, best to him.

Im surprised no one has been getting on Jenas's case. He played like complete crap hes been playing a lot recently...he scores the odd goal by luck but otherwise he makes too many "great supporting passes" to the other team.

I think the main problem that we had yesterday was that we were without our most consistant players in each area of the pitch (apart from Robinson who had quite a surprisingly bad game). While we do have cover for King Davids and Mido, without all three we dont have our consistancy.

my lineup for the game probably would have been

Kelly Dawson Pamarot Stalteri
Lennon Davis Carick Brown
Defoe Keane

if you push Davis a little back and let Carrick go up a little...hes quite a big man and can probably get the ball to the little boys

and on another note, we need a left back. im not too big a fan of Lee. MJ should consider playin Stalteri there, but at minimum we need cover. Bring back Zeigler (although i prefer him in midfield)

Out with Reid, Davis, Rasiak and i hate to say it but Mendes and Gardner as well. And Johnny Jackson too...i cant believe he still plays (used loosely) for us.

ok i think im done.

5:30 AM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...



7:17 AM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I went to the game, and at 2-0 when the mighty spurs faithfull were singing their european tour songs, I thought hang on, I've been here before!, Middlesborough last season..... We always feck up!!. And in my opinion we will again this term unless we get a quality striker!. Mido is very good, keane and defoe amazing, I feel we need Walcott and someone along the lines of Vieri, short term. There were some positives from the game, like the nutter that got hauled away and was spitting at the fans in the front row for laughing at him!!!. Ha!!.

7:22 AM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

If David and Lee will not fix for the game with liverpool this weekend. I think the SPURS' squad for the battle with LIVERPOOL should be






We should let Gadner in the game, because we have no more choice for this position.

VU MINH - Vietnamese supporter

7:27 AM, January 10, 2006

Blogger ekki23 said...

we should get rid of gardner, brown, kelly and rasiak and give davis, pamarot a chance they have both just got over serious injury so give them the chance to get back make some money on the rest and get a striker a defender who's left and center player and a left wing or give reid a chance he will a big part of spurs just watch and see.

8:05 AM, January 10, 2006

Blogger weymouth SPUR said...

As usual us 'supporters' get out the axe and start grinding it after a bad performance. Fair enough, but i think we need to get a grip. I read not so long ago that Kelly was the man and Stalteri was shit and should be benched well I think after watching sundays game I think MJ has that one right. Stalteri has improved and looks solid, scored a great goal and should always start ahead of Kelly who I thought was rubbish and not in the game at all. Any professional football defender should be able to play left or right side. I have been prepared to give Rasiak the benefit of the doubt (ala Crouch), but he is not good enough for the prem let alone spurs. Gardner and Brown were quality against Man City, but with no real runs in the team are going to lack consistency. They should be kept as squad players because at the moment they are happy with that and able back up.
I can remember being totally gutted and disgusted that we had thrown away the game, but after a while thought that actually I would prefer to be 4/5th position in the PL and go out of the cups early than finish 7/8/9th and lose in both semi-finals. So yes we need to be pissed off, but just remember that it is not all doom and gloom. Lets see what happens at the end of the season and then decide if this year has been a disaster.


9:37 AM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Dazza Jim said...

GREAT point about Ziegler. 19 years old and can play Left Back, or Left Wing with ease....and no isn't getting any footie in Germany. Bring him BACK!!
Also give Lee Barnard a chance from the subs bench, as he's banging in the goals for the reserves. What use are the reserve squads if you don't reward players who do well, and ship in someone else instead??

Bring back Darren Caskey! (Just kidding folks, but what the hell happened to him - he used to be England U18 captain playing with Campbell & Scholes!?)

9:45 AM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Dazza Jim said...

And we do have other options at Centre Half... Pamarot, Huddlestone, Mills, Defendi, Davenport... to name but 5!?

This thread is getting big...

9:51 AM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

What are u talkin about our Rasialdo!
Maybe he isn't very fast, but he has secret power - killin rivals making them bursting of laughter :P
All Poland know it well (except our National coach:>) , now you know - geez, what scouts do you have? :P

10:05 AM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Defendi and Davenport aren't good enough and for the last time huddleston is primarily a midfield holding player.

10:13 AM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi there!
I write from Poland and I'm really sorry for your team that you have Rasiak in your squad. And - what's even worse - on the pitch. Imagine that comments like those after last your game are normal thing on polish internet websites. Even when Rasiak is not playing. Everyday hundreds of "Rasiak-jokes" are there. We football-fans are not blind and we can clearly see that he lacks of everything what's neccesary to be a at least good striker. And Rasiak is at the moment pice of s...t.And it's hard to explain why managers still hope that he can play. I know that at the momment Mido is at ANC but surely there are better players than Rasiadinho in your team. And what can we say about our polish national team? Many better strikers but Rasiadlo is always in first 11. Ehhh, sorry guys...

10:33 AM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous parklanespur said...

get rid of kelly, gardner( whos always been shit) and rasiak who just cant play in the prem.

im not having losing to grimsby and leicester in the same gutted that we havent even had a cup run at all! we got to finish fourth for it to be the GREAT season everyone said it was going to be!!

like carrick said, no way to recover from this second embarrasment in a gutted and feel we will lose against liverpool even though a new striker in would give us a lift.

11:14 AM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone know why Ziegler got loaned out? It seemed weird to me because he was obviously one of our best players. I liked Edman too though he did give away the odd penalty. I hope Leicester was a one-off; our midfield played badly and we couldn't win the ball in the second half. When we did get it Robbo kept hoofing it straight back to Leicester for some unknown reason. I'd give Kelly another chance, it wasn't an easy game to come back in to the team , out of position as well. Gardner sadly isn't going to make it, he has had enough chances. Handy as cover though; we don't know if Huddlestone is really any good yet. Rasiak will never start again I imagine. Lennon is fantastic but we will never be able to keep him; one of the big boys will snaffle him. He is wasted on us anyway as we haven't got a player to get on his crosses.
Probably we should sell Defoe too before he becomes another Rebrov , and buy a good centre-forward (if you can find one.)
I think we still have a chance to end up 6th if we can keep the key players fit (King, Keane, Mido, Robbo, Davids, Dawson, Carrick, Lennon) and that would be our best Premiership finish ever.

11:34 AM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd be interested to see what Lennon looked like on the left wing as well. All the great wingers could play either side (remember the the great Cliff Jones, what a player).

11:39 AM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...


12:51 PM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Incredible! Kelly played really well last season and scored a few lovely games. He has one very bad game (out of position) and thats it he must go....WALOB.

Are you the same people who said Jenas was absolute shite and shouldn't be playing for us when he took 3 or 4 games to settle in?

Why don't we just sack Martin now and be done with it? I mean, come on Mr Jol, we lost a game.

1:15 PM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Agreed, Rasiak was fucking aweful....I mean really, really bad.

Big Tone screwed up everything he did against Man City by having a 'mare. He nearly made Daws look shite and we all know what a quality player he is.

On the plus side, Aaron Lennon may be the most exciting Spurs player since Gazza. I've not seen a defender get near him yet this season.

We can let Rasiak, Mendes, Pamarot and Dais go. Ribery looks the bollox, he'd be a good signing and obviously if we got Waldcott all my wet dreams would come true....

1:37 PM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think you are all being very harsh on Kelly, he played great last season and only his second match since the start of this season and he created the chance he did!! remember he is not a STRIKER and OR A LEFT BACK.. Salteri has been playing all season and that was his only goal on Sunday. I think Garder and Dawson lets us down big time.

1:40 PM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gardner, Kelly, Brown, Rasiak...if this lot can't get past Grimsby and now Leicester City, what hope is there of qualfying for the Champions League Group stages if we finish 4th? If Gardner has a problem dealing with the likes of De Vries, he'll be eaten alive by the likes of Eto, Shevchenko, Ronaldo etc. It frightens me to think of the Champion's League or the UEFA Cup with...Gardner,kelly. Brown and Rasiak. Why does Mr Gardner look non-plussed everytime? Go to the Valley man!

1:41 PM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous John3 said...

Kelly's second outing all season and it makes that run..ok he's a bit rusty, I didn't see any other spurs player do that in any of the recent matches..he created z chance for us.

1:44 PM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous fordy said...

We might just as well play defoe and keane up front what is the point in playing rasiak hitting long high balls when the cunt can't jump keep the ball on the ground also gardner and kelly out perhaps out feeder club might help west ham like buying shit

1:52 PM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another defeat and it's "Get rid of him","He shit","He should be shot"

Can't believe it......actually i can.

I feel we are being a bit harsh to say the least.

Sure, a bad result but maybe it's a blessing in disguise.
Europe is a must, and hopefully Champions League. I'm sure that will more than make up for it!!

But it was a bad TEAM performance (bar Lennon, 1st half anyway)

Still not convinced with Stalteri, looks like an action man but cracking goal.
Can't believe the Kelly knockers, anyone remember last season, miles better than pamarot anyway?

Gardner has never been 'good enough' but feel he is getting too much of the blame, sure MJ will look to strenghten there.

Brown is and always has been at best a squad player, seems to be happy biding his time, mr 100%, keep him.

Rasiak will hopefully be but merely a memory soon enough

And what's happened to Routledge, why isn't he playing now he isn't injured?

Shame Huddlestone is not involved in the squad yet, was looking forward to him more than anything else pre-season (until the arrival of Davids)

Can't understand why we sold Edman (although as pointed out, prone to concede the odd penalty) if only to keep him for cover anyway.

A few good buys in the transfer window and it will be (i bet) "Awesone, we're gonna win the league" etc, etc....

Take a trip down memory lane to, say...3 years ago....and look at us now. Massive improvements but still nowhere near the finished article. Give it time.


We have a good squad. A mainly young squad with some exerience, several internationals and greatly British based. The best we've had for many a year.
Our board seem to know what they're doing and don't hide the cheque book either. We are also finacially stable and are able to compete in the transfer market.
We have a affable manager with good knowledge, vision and beliefs, who seems to be going in the right direction.

We have some of the best fans in the country, travel as good anyone else if not better, sell out all our away game allocations and at least we make lots of noise at home games too (unlike the Library). Only beaten by Chelsea at home all of 2005 says something. Keep it up

Ledley - captain, rock, Mr.Spurs
Robbo - £1.5m !! steal !
Dawson - worth the £8m alone
Carrick/Jenas - potential is there for all to see
Tainio - where did he come from, & a FREE!!
Davids - Legend
3 fab stikers

Youngsters like Ifil, Davenport, Kelly, Huddlestone, Ziegler, Marney, Routledge, Barnard...

......and finally AARON LENNON !!!

The future's so bright i need shades.

Get behind the SPURS!!!


2:29 PM, January 10, 2006

Blogger dizzi said...

Gardener had a very poor game at leicester and I don't think he is good enough to stand in for King.

Rasiak was a waste of money and a panic buy. I really don't want to see him play for spurs again.

Brown is a back up for Davids and he works hard.

Kelly played out of position and we have all seen him play better so (if he stays) I'd like him to be back up for Stalteri.

3:22 PM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's stay positive lads, we're obviously concerntrating on the league!!?

Rasiak was awful though and kelly was very disappointing.

Cover for Mido is essential in the transfer window.

New Spurs website Check it, all comments and suggestions welcome as are any articles anyone wants to write for the site.

3:40 PM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Dazza Jim said...

Yeh I must admit I figured Routledge would be more involved now he's fit. Maybe he's been out of line recently after being brought on, then subbed the other week?
Definitely want to see more of Huddlestone, as he could be the ideal deputy for Davids - as no-one else was prepared to 'sit back' and protect the back line the other night.

Kelly is definitely much better than he showed Sunday. He just needs a slap.

And again, get ZIEGLER BACK... with him we'd have him, Routledge, Lennon and Reid - with other players more than able in wide positions. More wingers needed? Erm, no!
I believe Keane and Defoe CAN play together if given a run of more than 1 game!! Both of them are capable of not only heading the ball, but holding it up if needed... besides, if the QUALITY crosses come in, you don't NEED to be 6ft tall to meet them. David Platt wasn't a big fella, but got ahead of his man... which lets face it, Defoe and Keane do ALL THE TIME...give them a bloody chance! Play 2 wingers...take some chances!
With a settling in period, those 2 could be playing one-two's around everyone for fun... Anyone agree with me?

3:48 PM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is remarkable, Kelly complains all season about his lack of playing time. When the opportunity comes along what does he do? Play like shit! Get you head in the game and show some self-worth.

I do put it down to the fact that in the cups matches the regulars get rest, but those who come in play so poorly.

Another issue was the substitution pattern. With Routledge on the bench wouldn't it have better sense to bring him on for Brown instead of Defoe?

Defoe is driving many people nuts. We've all knew he is a selfish player, but it is more pronounced now. Always thinking of himself and what the camera caught, telling teammates to f-off. To be honest he needs a good slap. There is a reason why he has been dropped in favour of Keane. Instead of being a professional and playing his way back into the team like Robbie did he mopps.

The gratifying thing is we know Gardener is a back-up. I'm hoping we play alot better against Liverpool or our arses will be handed back to us.
-Enorme Nuez

4:04 PM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Sam said...

Ah come on - where did you get your facts from? Have you been down to the training grounds? It's quite visible Kelly works incredibly hard and well in training, he was unlucky on Sunday form lack of league games. Please, Keane is the biggest moaner on the pitch - handbags at dawn!

4:40 PM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Keano's been our best player in recent weeks.

Players of the Season so far:

1. King or Robbo
3. Dawson
4. Lennon
5. Davids
6. Keane or Mido

Lennon would be higher if he'd played more full games.

Mido has scored most goals but still goes missing, and whinges too much for my liking, esp as he's 6'2 and 13+ stone.

Remember Yid's, it's all about opinions.

4:46 PM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

In Poland we call rasiak woody boy, because he is slow like a tree and he is useless like a wood. Everybody laugh at him in Poland and he is symbol a wood. People compose song about him make a jokes and funny pages. He is also called in Poland like: greg the woood, woodinho, Gregor van der Wood, Georg von Wald, Greg "Timber of Mercy" Woodpecker, wooden boy, Gregory McWood, brave splinter, Gregory Slowtree he is the worst player on the world. funny page about wooden boy

4:56 PM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Edward Woodward said...

Suuper, Super Greg....

Super Greg Woodinho !!

5:35 PM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Martin Keown said...

I've got a monkey's head

5:37 PM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who is rasiaks favourite actor??
-WOODy Allen
-Clint EastWOOD
-Elijah WOOD

Who is rasiaks favourite sportman?
-Tiger WOODs

What kind of shoes does he wear???

What is rasiaks favourite club??
-Nottingham FOREST

What is rasiaks favourite movie??

Where does rasiak want to live??

What is his favourite cosmetic??

What does he use to shave??

Write your wooden jokes

5:58 PM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's gey rid of the shite that currently occupies our sqaud and wage bill ( I can name 8 cunts earning 15-20k plus) and buy some real FIRST team players.

ps. If those fuck pig's Rasiak & Gardener play on Sat expect a good
trashing. Cisse is a bit better than a two bit dutch twat, fuck me and Crouch!!!!!!!!!!. I can't cope

9:17 PM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ha Ha Ha

Arsenal lost ! W*nkers

Interesting stat:

Keane's been by far our best striker this season.

Current stats: (league only)


But taking a look at the actual minutes they have all played reads something different:



Statto I KNOW

Keane has trained hard, not really moaned (1 tantrum at, I think Birmingham last year) is playing well & rightly forced his way back into the 1st team after impressing in recent weeks. Defoe could learn a thing?

Anyone else think Keane is more important than Defoe? at the moment.

Before you start knocking, I am a big Defoe fan and think he has the potential to be a Tottenham Great, but the lad hasn't really come on as expected as has not been that great ALL year.

11:26 PM, January 10, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...


But i see your point

1:36 AM, January 11, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I certainly rate Defoe higher than Keane in terms of finishing and talents, but Keane does put in more effort than Defoe.

I think some of you guys are a tad too harsh on Kelly. He's not as poor as his display at Leicester suggested. Though he did badly, we must remember that he has been playing reserve football for most of this season. I'm sure he will be better given another chance. However, he's not a left-footer so Wayne Bridge would be an excellent addition to the squad.

Gardner is sh*t. Yes, he kept a few clean sheets at the start of the season and a couple of recent games but come'on. He's nothing but a poor man's (i.e Charlton & Pompey) King. Sell him and give Hudderstone a chance. Pamarot would be a reasonable backup for King in the middle too.

Brown is very commited and gives 100% in every match, but Sunday's game showed us that effort is nothing without skills. Against a Championship side, he was chasing shadows. Imagine it's against the gooners or Man USA, not to mention Chelski. Brown playing on the left makes Reid looks like Ginola!!The only reason that we should keep him is that he's happy to be on the bench. However, if we get Ziegler and hudderstone back, we would have the ample cover for LW & CM.

Carrick & Jenas did okay, and together with Davids, our central mid is strong.

Lennon did wonders again and with Routlege in the side, they can terrorize any left backs in the game as long as they stay fit.

That left me with our Big striker. Okay, so Jol prefers the Big Small partnership. The big guy holds, lays and knocks down the ball for the smaller ones. Sounds like a decent tactic, but only if you have the man to do so. Mido did well for us this season and I'm sure all Spurs' fans are waiting to sign him on a permanent basis. We will be missing him for a few games and I'm indeed very disturbed by it. Rasiak is "big" no doubt, but I couldn't recall if he actually won a single header against leicester! He was kept as tame as a pussy, and a pussy that can't jump for god's sake. Eager to show us he's actually a decent striker, he tried a couple of Ronaldo (Madrids's not Man USA's) dribble, only to discover it's harder to get past defenders than stationary training cones!!!!

So in conclusion, we need a LB, LW & a Big one up front. If we can address these areas in this transfer window, we will be still in top 4 at the end of season. COME ON YOU SPURS!!!


1:44 AM, January 11, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Huddleston's a midfield holding player.

8:34 AM, January 11, 2006

Anonymous dazza jim said...

If you're talented with good technique, you're never JUST a holding player. Huddlestone can play anywhere in defence or midfield if needed, as he is also 2 footed - as described on the, from the spurs coaching staff...

10:26 AM, January 11, 2006

Anonymous dazza jim said...

Sell Davis and Mendes.



Promote Barnard to the first team and give him a chance as he scored 17 goals in 17 games for reserves last season, and is still banging them in.

Net result - we retain a left winger who can also play left back, give a fairly tall, prolific striker from the reserves a chance, AND offload a couple of want-away midfielders.
Wage bill lightened ready for summer, and squad strengthened without spending a penny.


10:33 AM, January 11, 2006

Anonymous ROBBO THE YID said...


1:41 PM, January 11, 2006

Anonymous robbo the yid said...

ps will you all stop f**king picking the the team this is sometimes dictated by injuries and that we ave to put up with!! come rain or shine we all think we can be martin jollies at one time or another but were not we are supporters of a great football team so leicester games in the pass now liverpool next lets support the team
keep the faith

1:59 PM, January 11, 2006


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