Long ball fails to deliever
When we beat Charlton 3-1 a couple of weeks ago we played the ball through the middle to Keane and Defoe and did not result to long balls. When Mido returned we resulted to a more direct style which did get us an equaliser but nothing else. The fact we got the equaliser was because Mido was unmarked for the hoof from the back. Every other time Wigan marked him tightly and although he won a few flick ons they did not come to anything.
Our worst players on the field have to be the two full backs. Stalteri is going from bad to worse. He does not know when to go to the player or when to stay back and often makes the wrong choice. His attacking play with Lennon was non-existant and Kelly must deserve his chance now. On the other side Ting Tong has pace and a right foot. Ok if he was playing on the right but hes not. He gets to the byline and while we all hope for a first time cross he cuts back. Not so bad but he then cuts again back onto his left meaning he has to cut back AGAIN to his right - by now he is tackeld. Time for him to jog on.
Other players to note was Davids who was better than last week but not fantastic - Danny Murphy was useless. Why?
Fourth spot, no chance based upon forthcoming fixtures and current form. We worry about the scum but it could well be Bolton who nick it now.
COYS!
posted by Paxton Road at 6:07 PM
141 Comments:
Spot on!!!! But Murphy got better as the game progressed,so not totally useless....
6:24 PM, February 19, 2006
I totally agree with your post - today we were shapeless and clueless. The lack of natural left footed players is beginning to afect the way we play - we have no natural balance so revert to diamond formation - it also beggars the question (again) as to why Edman was allowed to leave and why is Reto Ziegler not at WHL - if the management want him to get experience in the premiership then how about playing him at the club that has his contract??? Reto showed enough last season to warrant that he played some part in this season - very stange. We even had to use Jackson on the left recently. We have become transparent to the opposition - pass it along the back 4 and then give it to Robinson and hoof it up to try and get Mido to head it on - and for some variation we let Dawson hoof it up. Sort it out Martin or you are going to screw up a very good season so far.
6:30 PM, February 19, 2006
all true, however poorly written the piece may be.
6:33 PM, February 19, 2006
The long ball tactic should only be used a handful of occassions in each game,and only when the time is right.Every great team will use the long ball occassionally to greater effect because it is not expected.What is the point in publicly declaring our tactics(EG big man little man)and allowing teams to read us with ease.Maybe Lee should switch to rightback,and bring in someone like bridge for the left while pushing Ziegler forward(when he finally returns)
6:39 PM, February 19, 2006
we missed Jenas today, and what happened to him?
6:49 PM, February 19, 2006
I'm a charlton fan and i watched the game. Jenas was ill this morning and thats why Murphy played. As to Murphy, he was useless and you can have him for as long as you like. He doesnt like being closed down. He has to have a lot of time on the ball, otherwise he puts his head down like a little schoolboy and sulks for the rest of the game. Teams worked it out against us pretty quickly and that led to our downfall this season. He deserves to sit on the bench and sulk for the rest of his career, and watch out for his missus's column in the paper, she'll being having at pop at you lot soon!
6:58 PM, February 19, 2006
The long ball tactic should only be used a handful of times in each game,and only when the time is right.Every great team uses the long ball occasionally to greater effect because it is not expected as part of a routine.Why do we publicly declare our tactics(EG big man,little man)and allow teams to read us with ease.Maybe Lee should switch to rightback,and bring in someone like bridge for the left while pushing Ziegler forward (when he finally returns)Stalteri,well you get what you pay for in his case,the sooner Spurs offload him the better.
7:00 PM, February 19, 2006
i watched this game thinking it might be another 3 points for us but there was a lack off passing the ball around we never seem to get the rebounds all ways second to the ball it look s like a good season for us but we nead more grit in the team more chashing of the ball and when players are comeing at our defence we nead to get stuck in not chash back looking at the on comeing player we are doing well but must be strong now last few games and stop worrying about mistakes lets play good football
7:05 PM, February 19, 2006
Maybe we should go 4-3-3. We looked a bit more effective when Keano came on.
Agree about Stalteri - he is beginning to worry me big time.
7:09 PM, February 19, 2006
i didnt think murphy was that bad, no worse than the others, he was always looking to play players in, and nearly did on a number of occasions only prevented from doing so by some good defending by wigan. And what the fuck was the booing about at the end, total fucking idiots, get some perspective you morons
7:09 PM, February 19, 2006
for fuck sake, on paper we have one of the best midfields in the premiership so why the fuck cant we create anything through there. i agree completely that we use the long ball far too much, aaron lennon barely got a sniff of the ball today, what's the point in playing wingers if you're not going to use them. and as for stalteri i think i'd rather see dean austin back at full back than have to endure another shit performance from that wanker. wake up and smell the coffee martin before we're sliding down the table into our usual mediocre positions of years gone by.
7:10 PM, February 19, 2006
I have to agree with all the comments - no natural width on the left is starting to hurt. I am totally bemused why Reto came back and went off again. Teams have started to work us out for sure.
However, we are still a lot lot better than any season in a long long time so let's show a little faith. We all have to admit that we never expected to be where we are this early in Jol's reign. Let's not get on his back too much, he is made us into a very hard team to beat, made WHL into a fortress and made some good signings. The old Spurs would have lost that game today and not been able to comeback from a goal down twice.
Despite losing a number of goals late on this season, we have also managed to pull things back against United, Villa, Charlton, Portsmouth, Wigan etc etc.
Time to kick on now in the close season, which I am sure we will. Uefa Cup is a miminum though
7:14 PM, February 19, 2006
Although it is another setback, the resiliance which the players showed means a lot. Dawson was fantastic, Carrick was a genius, Lennon looked superb but now we need to really kick on and challenge for at least 5th place now
7:25 PM, February 19, 2006
who cares
7:38 PM, February 19, 2006
who cares
7:39 PM, February 19, 2006
is Jenas gay?
7:39 PM, February 19, 2006
who cares v
7:40 PM, February 19, 2006
we need midfielders who put themselves abouth like tainio or jenas, we need to get rid of stalteri or just give kelly a chance and buy a naturally left footed player
7:48 PM, February 19, 2006
we surely have to try some of the reserve players? who are top of there league! kelly deserved a start today! missed tainio badly today as kavanagh grey haired moaner had acres of space all game ! think our players were scared to go near the old twat! murphy was a fuckin disgrace! never liked the wanker and if he carries on like that cant see him lasting long! he probably doesnt give a flying bird flu duck who his playing for ! may as well play his bird least we could nonce here tits ! zeigler should be back for us! great talent been wasted. should never have sold matty everinton to irons. Just like to add i was at the game and thought that referee rennie was a disgrace . 1 example free kick ot the wigan wallback 5 yards ! usless twat
8:06 PM, February 19, 2006
we just had another off day. give credit to wigan they played well and could have gone home with 3 points. we didnt pass well. didnt make too many chances to score. didnt play wide. no left sided player young-pyo lee cant cross a ball. davids and carrick had off days. like last sunday. stalteri really is letting us down. teams now know to go at him as he might F up. we are still in 4th i think the players are thinking about it too much. we should just be happy go get in uefa place like the start of the season any more is a right touch.. come on lets get behind the boys and hope we can play good soon like the 3-1 win only the other sunday yid army.. how care if jenas is gay. dont stop him being a good player that we really missed today.
8:09 PM, February 19, 2006
The Last 7/8 performances have been well under parr, we'll all agree with that. However, before our recent 'slump' we were all saying how compact and difficult to beat we were. Every team has a blip and this is it for us, lets all stop this bitching about lee/stalteri/murphy etc(all have been at the club for under 9months) , they're all proven players with european experience which will come in handy next year when we're mixing it with the euro eilte. Enic said Champions league in 5 years!! This is year 4, lets get behind the lads and make sure it happens.
The arse dont like it up em, except sol.
8:26 PM, February 19, 2006
Well another inept performance..
only decent game we've played this season is charlton..
we just don't create enough chances in a game - no movement at all. If chances were created I'm sure Defoe would be in the 20 goal bracket by now, as any chance he gets, he knows he's got to score, because that could be the only bloody one he gets all game.
one more thing... is it me, or is carrick the most over-rated player in the premiership. His set plays are pathetic, but still takes em. never goes forward, just sits in the centre circle - didn't vinny samways do the same, but get booed?.. had to get all my frustration out.. sorry if anyone offended.
8:54 PM, February 19, 2006
JUst two things two say.
First, we were poor enough said.
Secondly you are all fucking arseholes, those of you who booed your own team today.
It makes me sick, we are fourth in the league and you are booing. I'll guarantee you the prick who sits near me won't do it again.
Support your team you tossers or fuck off to the scum.
9:12 PM, February 19, 2006
i think the danny murphy comment was a bit much.personally i think davids should stop being so egotistical and play the ball more cos every time he loses it he starts placing the blame elsewhere.and yeah stateri has gotta start learning poxy offside or marking "either will do"
9:29 PM, February 19, 2006
I hate to say it but a perfert summer signing would be Reyes because of the positions he can play and the way he plays them,he is also young and would fit into our transfer policy.We,re not at the stage where players will leave the scum to join us yet(give it time)due to the last near decade of Wenger(wanker)who else could we sign who would lift the team the way Reyes would.
9:36 PM, February 19, 2006
I,ve posted some wicked comments recently just to get the conversation going...Sorry Chesthunt yid.. Salteri is a great player..etc etc. However I am a season ticket holder and would like to make some serious points to which you might agree or disagree in no particular order
1 - We are far ahead of where we expected to be this season and the lure of CL football so close is getting us all nervous
2 - Robbo is having a bad spell in what has been a great season
3 - We should never have sold Etherington a natural lefty
4 - We should never have let Reto go to Wigan on loan for sale to them at the end of the season
5 - Jenas never played today because rumour says it is him and Ashley Cole who are in the ring sting with Will Young
6 - Jol has done well but needs to make decisions on his best formation and players
7 - Why when Mido plays do we plat like Everton used to with Ferguson all long ball, we proved against Charlton that we can push and run
8 - Salteri isn,t that bad but if you want a replacement look at Phil Ifil
9 - Park Lane we don,t need to stand up if we hate SCUM or if we love Spurs, but need you to lead us when the team needs support as us in the Paxton obviously can,t
10 - Rennie is a C***
Fill free to respond positively but I now feel CL has gone and UEFA is a distant dream with the vultures waiting, King to Chelsea 17M, Carrick to M Utd, Defoe to Liverpoll 10M and possibly Robbo to ???
9:58 PM, February 19, 2006
neve ever ever do we want to sign reyes the gooner scum.
today we were lacking all over the park, i think the pressure it getting to them - now is the time to stand up and be counted.
rotation to start soon, need to freshen things up. carrick needs a kick up the backside - had a lot of the ball but did fuck all with it.
2 weeks off to regroup and remember how to win. we are still 4th by the way to all those pricks that booed - disgraceful behaviour.
my team v blackburn
robinson
kelly
dawson
king
lee
lennon ( get to the line more!! )
jenas
davids
tainio
mido
keane
COYS
10:02 PM, February 19, 2006
apology accepted anonymous !!
10:05 PM, February 19, 2006
Accepted
Just one more point what is the real feeling amongst our fans about Murphy, I wasn,t sure about Jenas when we signed but he has impressed not sure about Murphy either will he impress?
10:22 PM, February 19, 2006
well i totally agree with the post!! it was awful!! our worst two players all season are now getting shown up for their incompetence......stalteri is shite in my opinion and lee young pyo cannot cross a ball to save his life!! get two new wing backs for next season jol!!
bye bye champions league dreams!! maybe even bye bye europe dream all together!
P.S. for those of u who bombarded "THE SHELF" when we first sgined jenas sayin he was crap are now looking a bit stupid aren't u!!! we were outbattled today and we missed his midfield engine and quality passing and movement.
11:13 PM, February 19, 2006
We had to play Murphy, because according to Jol Jenas was ill with flu.
Murphy gave the ball away a number of times but did make a few tackles and got into space. Sadly he was not fit to last 90 mins(nor was Davids).
Question, why sell Michael Brown to Fulham? And loan Retro Ziegler to Wigan straight after his loan spell with Hamburg? Brown would have done a better job than Murphy who needs better match fitness, and we badly need Ziegler to play on the left wing.
Lee Young is all right foot - a serious problem for a left back. Strangely he did provide two reasonable crosses with his left foot when running out of pitch! Not a permanent player for the position.
As to Salteri, he needs to be dropped, or rested after his horror shows against Charlton & Sunderland (Wheres the battle harded Werder Bremen palyer that Jol talked about when we signed him?. We need to start playing Kelly instead.
We were clearly one dimensional with the long ball stuff, but that all started with Davids and Murphy being substituted.
We must do much better. One win in six is simply not good enough.
COYS
11:47 PM, February 19, 2006
The worse thing about todays performance was that it proved what I feeled was gonna happen after seeing last weeks performance we are shitting it!
We are shitting it that we gonna blow the champs league we are making nervous errors. We are gonna have to find our bottle and start playing with the type of fight that wigan showed!
I think we missed jenas he has great movement and we could really use tanio's workrate at the moment.
11:48 PM, February 19, 2006
gary i cant belive the booing at the end of game we have to give it time to work
11:50 PM, February 19, 2006
If we still carry on play like this dont ever dream about CL even UEFA is out of reach!I started to question about Jol selection.Enough with Stalteri,he remind me of Dean Austin!The last 3 game he is crap!Poor marking,position and supply the run to back up Lennon!Last night is example he play Johansson onside!What the hell he is doing for not realise his other defender is up?As for Lee,how can he play at the left back position and dont know how to cross!This is example why we are lacking of goal!He can run but then stop at the line and make his usual skill with the ball and then pass it back!We need someone who can cross and i must say Edman is much better!Ok!We are near to the end of the season but why???Even Ziegler is much better than him!No top team in EPL,Serie A,Spanish league who play someone at left or right position but cannot make a cross!Why?Look at Che$ski,Man Utd,Arscum,Liverfood all the team got their natural footed player to play at the positon!I must say even The Spamers is much better on us especially at the flank!
2:03 AM, February 20, 2006
Can you please leave the racist comments out!! your reference to Lee as Ting Tong is both retarded and uncalled for. He is one of our players and should be cheered and not abused. The whole team was lacking yesterday not just him the only player to come out with kudos is Mido!
3:39 AM, February 20, 2006
Did someone say sign Reyes,
im sure Wenger would like to be
shot of him.
He has brilliant ball control
unfortunatly he spends most of his time throwing him self self down
looking for penalties or free kicks
then getting up with a stupid grin on his face, reminds me of walker
after the 5th goal squirms under him. Leave the idiot with ARSEHOLE
9:14 AM, February 20, 2006
BOTTLE JOBS, BOTTLE JOBS, BOTTLE JOBS, BOTTLE JOBS, BOTTLE JOBS, BOTTLE JOBS, BOTTLE JOBS, BOTTLE JOBS, BOTTLE JOBS.
OUR TEAM ARE FULL OF BOTTLE JOBS AND WE WILL NEVER GET CHAMPIONS LEAGUE!!
SPURS ARE EMBARASSING US AGAIN!!
9:47 AM, February 20, 2006
dvd , kitchen sink , wing one yap ccunt errrrrrrrrrrrrr slot eyed , kamikaze - cunnttrrrrr
9:54 AM, February 20, 2006
Cheshunt yid,
U R A TOTAL F^&KING DI&^HEAD!!!
You know absoltely ntohing about football and your posts are alwasy irrelevent and wasteful and when that dawns on you, you try and state that it was only done to incite discussion??? Moron.
I agree with many posts, especially those calling for Stalteri to take a seat. Why? I had 10pounds on Defoe to score first and for us to beat Chalton 3-0. The moron cost me that by not staying goalside.
He then allows himslef to be muscled off the ball at Sunderland & then today he is at fault for their goal and then late on nearly let another player get goalside (thanks Robbo for an amazing stop).
Can't Martin see this?
Kelly isn't much better but I think Young Pyo is a marvelous player after watching hi in the Eireverdesie last season.
The team should be:
Robinson
LB Ziegler (call him back FFS!)
CB King
CB Dawson
RB Lee
LM Taino/Routledge/Lennon
CM Carrick
CM Davids
RM Jenas (move inside diamond)
CF Mido
CF Defoe
Subs. Cerny, Keane, Barnard (give him a game please!) Huddlestone, One of LM the other out of squad
10:10 AM, February 20, 2006
ps. That tenner would have yielded 4oosquid back at 40/1. thatnks alot you old canadian nazi cunt!
10:12 AM, February 20, 2006
1. Cheshunt yid is obsessed with typing tedious squad lists.
He should change his name to Cheshunt Rainman.
2. Not Ting Tong, Tong Ting.
3. The quality of this blog is abysmal. Go to vtalfootball. Much better.
11:35 AM, February 20, 2006
9:12 PM, February 19, 2006
"..I'll guarantee you the prick who sits near me won't do it again.."
OOOH, YOU'RE SOO HARD.
1:19 PM, February 20, 2006
10.10 what a prick you really are !
thought this is meant to be a supporters forum ?
show your face, who the fuck is anonymous ?
shame it was only 30 quid you lost !!
get a life, boy
COYS
2:15 PM, February 20, 2006
....and no my maths are no good either....
5:22 PM, February 20, 2006
some good posts.
Here's my take. Stalteri scares me most of the goals against come from either Stateri missing challenges or letting people go.
Iffil is class but very young,I think that letting all of those players to go on loan has now just bitten us on the arse,our bench has gone from being strong to being quite weak. At the end of the day I didn't think Parmarot was that bad.Also remember the squad is very young and mistakes will happen. Keep the faith people
8:12 PM, February 20, 2006
"....show your face, who the fuck is anonymous?"
I am, you hopping mad squad list wielding booer beater upper!Are you in charge of both WHL ean behaviour AND the content of the internet are you? Loser.
I tell you, I booed on Sunday because of Huddlestones inability to execute a one two with Ting Tong...........Twice!!!! and I wasn't alone, there were hundreds and hundreds of us.
If you want these piss take posts to stop, stop with the endless squad lists. You're boring us all stupid with them.
And while you're at it, lose the two bob drug dealer I'm hard routine. That, whist funnier than the squad lists is equally boring.
Oh yeah, we are all fans. and we all have opinions that will sometimes be nice and sometimes they won't.
You're not in charge so go and huff and puff at some little piggies on another forum because this one thinks you're a twit.
9:19 PM, February 20, 2006
9.19 makes a good point.
cheshunt yid sounds like a bully.
9:22 PM, February 20, 2006
HIS lists are clueless. I don't normally read them, but he's dropped Defoe.
Cheshunt yid is obviuosly a GANGSTAR!
9:26 PM, February 20, 2006
and carrick
10:13 PM, February 20, 2006
cheshunt yid talks sense u nutters !! listen to a point of view - this is a forum and everyone is entitled to expressing their thoughts.
leave the racist comments out - am sure lee loves being called ting tong u sad loser
10:37 PM, February 20, 2006
newsflash 9.19 gets a personality......
10:40 PM, February 20, 2006
cheshunt yid is an embarrassment, great to see a few posts to that effect. keep up the good work!
i booed on sunday and if cheshunt yid had tried to shut me up i wouldda knocked the soppy git out!
8:41 PM, February 21, 2006
i heard we are gonna sign ting tongs' sister "ping pong" who gives handjobs in the physio room
1:38 AM, February 22, 2006
cheshunt yid is such a knob he is posting messages as anonymous (10:37) to make out he is not alone !!
Ha Ha Ha
What a looooser
COYS!!
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1:44 AM, February 22, 2006
YEAH I HAD A GO ON TING TONG FOR 5 BUCKS AND ALSO HER MUM MING PONG
1:49 AM, February 22, 2006
Anybody wanna buy a dvd
ok, how about some noodles then?
1:51 AM, February 22, 2006
i bought a dvd, it had cheshunt yids mum on it, in all different positions........and pow, there goes the money shot.
1:53 AM, February 22, 2006
I think you're all being thoroughly unpleasant. Stop it!
10:48 AM, February 22, 2006
Absolutely disgusting. As a relatively new spurs fan, I have to say that the foul bile being spouted by you so-called "supporters" reeks of sheer ignorance and bigotry. I honestly can't believe that this type of racist commentary stills goes on. It's almost enough to turn me off spurs completely. The only explanation I can come up with is that you're all 15 years old.
Grow up. Please.
1:59 PM, February 22, 2006
Dear 1.59pm
I'm a 15 year old and I'm most offended by the ignorant and bigoted bile you've spouted with regards to people my age (nearly grown up). How dare you arbitrarilly tar us all with the same brush. Shame on you. If you're going to be like that please support another club, like middlesbrough. There all thick northeners up there and you'd be right at home.
Yours sincerely, yid15.
5:11 PM, February 22, 2006
yid15,
Touché. I apologize for that. My comment is directed at those who think there's nothing wrong with calling someone "Ting Tong" out of jest. There's simply no place for that kind of attitude in today's society.
Apologies to 15 year olds everywhere.
5:53 PM, February 22, 2006
My friend Ting Tong is also 15.
Yid15.
6:24 PM, February 22, 2006
1:59 & 5:53
"..Todays society.."
Man go fuck yourself. Its knobs like you that make people have to watch their every word because it HAS to be PC.
Well bollox to that.
Players now cant even celebrate or take their shirt off cos it offend muslims. Bollox, don't like it don't watch it fuckin suicide bombers.
I am entitled to and will call whoever i want whatever i want.
Freedom of speech.
If i want to call Lee = Ting Tong i will, if you don't like that, tough shit, Dipshit.
Ting Tong, Ping Pong, Slitty eyed, noodle eating, yellow belly, kamikaze pilot, rice carrying smells funny chinese curry flied lice.........nothing anyone can do about it
6:39 PM, February 22, 2006
Dear 6.39pm
Kamikaze is Japanese. Curry is Indian.
Ping Pong isn't chinese he's South Korean. Bollocks isn't spelt with an X and fucking is spelt with a G.
Oh and I think that 1.59 poster might be being ironic. Least I hope so.
Yid15.
7:00 PM, February 22, 2006
1.59
you said you are, and i quote 'a relatively new spurs fan'
So who did you used to support before the Spurs?
Don't you know you are NOT supposed to change teams?
I bet you're one of them egg chasing cunts, why don't you fuck off
And if someone calling Lee ting tong puts you off supporting spurs then that just shows what a complete cock you are and YOU ARE NOT WORTHY OF FOLLOWING THE SPURS
Go back and watch 'ruggers' with Giles & Cuthbert you PC CUNT
I hate Cunts like you, wanting the make the world a 'better place' you cant say this or mustn't say that, FUCK OFF
A question for you.
Have you ever met a Tottenham fan who is a Jew?
Probably not.
So when the whole park lane, shelf and some of paxton sing 'Yid Army' do you tell them to stop as it could cause offence to Jewish people?
No, why?
Does that not count?
More likely because you talk SHIT and don't live in the real world.
And besides you are probably a little pussy and wouldn't dare spout out you Political Correctness
as you would get bitch slapped.
I bet you laugh at the scouse 'sign on song' though, actually you've probably never heard it cos you've never been to a 'footie' game in your sad little life
Why don't you write off to the BBBC and complain about Little Britain and their 'characters'
Get a life, WANKER
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COYS
p.s. Park Lane, Shelf & Paxton are stands at White Hart Lane.
p.p.s White Hart Lane is a stadium that is home to Tottenham Hotspur FC.
CUNT
7:03 PM, February 22, 2006
yid15,
These were dilleberett mistakes.
By the way Curry flied lice is a Chinese order....no 54 on the menu at my local 'Chinkys'
7:09 PM, February 22, 2006
Dear 7.03pm
I am a little bitch slapped hebrew pussy in the Israeli military who loves a wank and I'm appalled at the slurs you have made regarding small cats of my ilk. Can you not slagg off the aformentioned Spurs neophyte without thoughtlessly dragging my goodself through the politically incorrect mire?
Shame on you.
7:17 PM, February 22, 2006
Re 7.03pm
I am a police constable by the name of Cunt and I object to your using my scrupulously clean name and job description to slander a dodgy new yid dickhead. Please refrain in future or I'll have you arrested. (Please post in your name & address).
Your Pc Cunt.
p.s.
I have cousins called Giles and Cuthbert who play rugby.
7:30 PM, February 22, 2006
Re: 7.09pm
Delibrate? Surely no one's that clever?
Yid15.
7:34 PM, February 22, 2006
I don't tend to reply to 'non football' posts but i will make an exception this time
Todays Society.
A society where i cant get a plane, train or bus without the fear of some knobjockey wanting to blow himself and everyone else up to become a Martyr.
A society where i can't open the paper without reading about some granny who got beat up for £50 by some hoodies.
A society where my very ill war vet grandad can't get a bed in the hospital because it is 'over crowded'
A society where i go through 185 alarm clocks a year because i wake up as John Elway and smash them at the wall
A society where without skysports there would be only car crash 'reality tv' shows which i happen to hate and my missus loves
A society that has invented sky 'multiroom'
A society were i cant take my missus for a meal down the local restaurant without some greasy waiter cloning my credit card and running up a bigger bill then my bird
A society where my girlfriend always asks me 'does my bum look big in this' and for a split second i almost forget and say yes
A society where i keep almost getting caught peaking at my bird's 18yo sister getting dressed, by her mum
A society where i can't even visit my pals in Liverpool without looking out the window and seeing some curly haired gypo in a shellsuit running off with my wheels.
A society where i can just about afford to put juice in the fucking thing to start with
and buy 2 pints with a fiver and get told its not enough, WTF?
A society where they decide to make all bus rides for U16's free but its 15 fucking years too late as far as i'm concerned, bassstads.
A society where i go to bed dreaming of eating giant marsh mellows and wake up with no fucking pillow
A society where them pikeys from Woolwich go to Madrid and get a.....ahem, well deserved...ahem, victory
A society where i wonder will Spurs manage to hold on to their 4th spot in the league, drop down but stay in top 6 or fuck it all up and don't QF for europe
Now, apart from the multiroom, THESE things worry me not someone referring to a spurs player as 'Ting Tong'.
Get a life mate.
And if that 'name calling' is "almost enough to turn you off spurs completely" then you were never welcome.
Jog on.
COYS
8:05 PM, February 22, 2006
$5 dollar love you long time,
That's right - I'm a relatively new spurs fan. Not because I supported someone else, but because I live in Canada and until recently it wasn't particularly easy to follow a sport halfway around the world. Thanks to digital cable and the net, I can now follow the beautiful game.
So many of you claim to want spurs to "take it to the next level". That means attracting new fans like me. The club, through their signings and hugely impressive form this season, have done their part, but it seems that supporters like you are letting the side down. Like I said earlier, not at all impressed.
Neophyte.
8:09 PM, February 22, 2006
7.30
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
very good
Yid Army
8:10 PM, February 22, 2006
Neophyte,
How is attracting 'fans' like you "taking it to the next level"?
You probably think that Sol Campbell is our captain.
Yours sincerely,
Confused.
He's big, he's black,
he takes it up the crack
Soooooooool Campbellllll
Soool Campbell
8:42 PM, February 22, 2006
Dearest Neo,
Please don't take it to heart, this is just our way. We're jolly nice people really. Football fandom is where we like to show our childlike & silly side and these blogsites are where some of us let rip after a hard days work. You really mustn't take it seriously or you'll get a Canadian hernia (like an English one but more gentle).
Welcome to Tottenham Hotspur. Home of potentially the greatest team in the world.
Yid15
8:46 PM, February 22, 2006
P.s.
Would you mind in future signing yourself as Neo on all Spurs sites. Then we know who we're talking to.
All the best Yid15
8:56 PM, February 22, 2006
P.p.s.
If we go to Canada can we stay at yours?
9:15 PM, February 22, 2006
Park Lane Green Beret,
Quite good.
Yid15,
Thanks - you're right. I'm not usually this righteous. I guess I was just looking for some good old-fashioned football discussion and found - this.
Anyway, can't hang around too long - Canada and Russia tied going into the third. That's ICE hockey, in case you were wondering.
Neo
9:17 PM, February 22, 2006
At last this blog comes to life and that flea brain cheshunt yid has stormed into his local Blockbuster to hire 'Rainman'.
"Does the Joey Deacon in this make er... lists does he? ... I tee u wot pal, if he does you're getting a proper slap. I'm a geezer. Innit"
Yes. I clocked Cheshunt Yid posting as anonymous in order make him look as if he had a supporter.
Hilarious stuff chaps, carry on!
9:40 PM, February 22, 2006
to the canadian...
thanks for your support, I shall wear it always.
to the politically correct...
go and live in China you tree hugging bleeding hearts
Anyone know where I can buy a DVD?
9:50 PM, February 22, 2006
my birds totally cleaned me out
fucking valentines day my arse
"No i don't want any thing honey", I'LL BOOK A RESTAURANT SHALL I? "No I'll make you a nice dinner",.........hhmmmmmmmmmmm..............Tuesday rolls round.........."So you did'nt get me anything" NO I DID, (Presenting flowers, chocolates, pink champagne (yes i know), card & necklace from the restaurant money) ........ "right i also want to be wined and dined tonight" ............ BOLLOCKS ........... could we find a restaurant, could we fuck .......... "You said you'd take me out" ............... BOLLOCKS ......... end up having to go to this plush restaurant at a fooking very expensive hotel
fussy bitch, should've made that necklace a pearl one
Anyone see chavski lose, ha ha
Viva Espana
9:52 PM, February 22, 2006
9:40 PM, February 22
I HEARD CHESHNUT IS HELPING HIS MOM WITH 'THEM NEW' DVD'S HE'S DOING FOR TING TONGS' SISTER PING PONG WHO'S GONNA SELL EM DOWN THE LOCAL BOOZER AND KEBAB'OUSE
up the Garry, i mean up the spurs
10:02 PM, February 22, 2006
Dog Eating Korean,
The Canadian, (Neo), was the Politically Correct (PC) but not Pc as in Pc Cunt, who is an upstanding memeber and pillar of our community.
Apparently you can get DVD's of West Ham fans as they were shouting offers at Young-Pyo Bruce Lee at WHL back in November
10:09 PM, February 22, 2006
Hey Neo, sorry about Canada in the ice hockey. Those peski Russians huh! Still they'll never get past the Fins.
That Nabokov......... he should stick to writing books.
Y15.
11:24 PM, February 22, 2006
Appparently Stalteri used to play ice hockey.
Wish he'd go back to Canada and play hockey again because his football skills are like my blogname, the useless plank.
4:03 PM, February 23, 2006
God I've never read so much non-football related bollocks in my life.
I agree with comments made WAYYYYY up there at the top somewhere, that Lee would make a bloody brilliant right back, but is flawed at left back. Stalteri is apparently two footed, so maybe a change of scenery at left back would do him good!?
I also agree we should still have Edman at the club - one of the most consistent left backs we've had for 10 years, and he only plays one season. Madness.
Ziegler should also be here as cover.... with Naybet getting a few games in the run-in to give us some much needed experience!
6:11 PM, February 24, 2006
Re: Dazza Jim
Where are you from?
No, I mean which planet?
Stalteri and Lee are without question the two weakest links in our 'first' team and the best remedy you can come up with is swap em over?!! Wot? Have you been on the sherry? And as for Edman being the best left back for ten years. That's not much of a claim is it? Edman's probably been as good as any player we've had for the last 10 years and I'm only half joking. Edman like Stalteri got jittery under pressure and would get all clumsy and hands-on. Kept giving away penalties or free kicks, that's why he was sold and that's why in a year or two neither Stall-terry or Lee will be a Spurs first teamer if a Spur at all.
Zeigler shouldn't be here because big Martin says he's better off on loan at the moment and that should be good enough for anyone unless you know better and Naybets good for handing experience to younger players during training but he's past it other than that. Do you remember his last appearance? Slow as a stodgey turd on the turn. I'd prefer Gardener (a la man city) any day. For now.
Interesting to read a few more comments from Jol about spending big money to take us to the next level.
Is he prodding Levy do you think?
6:49 PM, February 24, 2006
P.s.
Congratulations for starting a fooball discussion Daz.
6:54 PM, February 24, 2006
Where can I buy a football discussion DVD ?
10:03 PM, February 24, 2006
What are 3 things a black man can't get?
A fat lip
A black eye
& a job
10:39 PM, February 24, 2006
PC issues aside, that's nowhere near funny.
6:42 AM, February 25, 2006
THIS BLOG IS SHIT, ALL OF YOU REGISTER TO VITAL FOOTBALL.
PAXMAN IS VIRTUALLY ILLITERATE AND THE FUTURE'S VITAL!
10:10 PM, February 25, 2006
Fair play, Vital is the best of the forums
10:59 PM, February 25, 2006
6:42 AM, February 25, 2006
Ok, you make me laugh then playboy
What do you say to a black man with a job?
Big Mac please.
9:22 PM, February 26, 2006
El... (Is that El Hamdaoui? lol)
Cheers for the encouragement re- keeping to a football topic on what is after all a football forum.
However, I'm sticking to my guns on this one. I know Edman was a tad jittery at times, but if you consider he was only 25, played in an unsettled back line, and had his season interrupted by severe/life threatening concussion he had a damn fine season! His 40 yarder against liverpool was out of this world - it probably could have hit the planet you appear to think i live on, if it had not been on target.
I also think when him and Zeigler played together, they dovetailed brilliantly, being natural leftys, and never had a proper run in the team as a pair. I think Zeigler wanted to go on loan, rather than Jol simply letting him go - same with Routledge.
Naybet is still quality, even if he is slow - name a 36 year old who isn't! But every game I've seen him play, he's been alongside king or someone else with a bit of pace, and has looked comfortable. I'd at least have him on the bench, tis all.
With regards to my comments about Lee and Stalteri... I was just being positive about what we have got at the club now - rather than whingeing about who we could have there in the summer. Sometimes a change is as good as a rest, and Lee seems to be more than a little right footed... so why not try him at right back? Kelly has now proved he's got his sharpness back, and can play left or right very well. Bench Stalteri for a bit?
By the way, whoever it was that mentioned they would prefer Dean Austin back, rather than Stalteri - oh dear. I think they live on a more distant planet than I... poor soul!
El - some common ground acheived here?
12:01 PM, February 27, 2006
Challenge to all on this forum -
Name our best full back pairing from the last 10 years. If it gets anywhere near the quality we currently have, I'd be gobsmacked. (Even though Stalteri and Lee are both running a bit HOT/COLD at the mo)
If we can get some backup in the Summer sales though, all the better.
12:28 PM, February 27, 2006
Stalteri is absolute shyte
Stephen Carr was much better before he got injured
I'd also take Ziege over Ting Tong
At least he could croos the ball
2:16 PM, February 27, 2006
dazza jim,
If you think Stalteri & Lee are 'quality' then you need your head checked mate.
THEY are the weak links in the team .
If i was Jol i would concentrate on improiving these areas in the summer
(along with adding a striker & Left footed winger)
All the best
COYS
2:32 PM, February 27, 2006
Comments above maybe a little unfair...
Stalteri has only really been 'shyte' the last few games, when his errors have led to goals against. Up to then, no-one had a problem with him, he was a champions league player etc etc...
Also, if you remember, Steve Carr used to CONSTANTLY give the ball away in stupid circumstances in nearly every part of the pitch - usually when we were in full flow! His runs and tackling were great, but crossing and final ball were always poor in my opinion. Stalteri isn't as hard tackling, but his passing is much more consistent in my opinion - just needs to stand his ground more.
When I said the word 'quality' I didn't mean we couldn't do any better either - I just mean, compared to the likes of Dean Austin, Colin Calderwood, David Kerslake, etc... our full backs are amongst the best we've had in the last 10 years. There's always room for improvement!
And believe me, if I had a choice over Lee or Zeigler, I'd pick Zeigler... but hey its not one of Jol's options at the mo - so I was looking at what he CAN do - short of recalling him back from Pompey and sticking him in the 1st team.
I would like to see Kelly get more of a chance at right back, and hope we keep Ifil... but Stalteri can play anywhere in defence or midfield, despite what people think of his recent mistakes.
Everyone happy now? lol
5:11 PM, February 27, 2006
Oh striker and left footed winger...
Recall Zeigler, and Stick Barnard into the 1st team. Cost = Free
Also recall Routledge as cover for Lennon.
Then use money to reinforce previously mentioned full back positions.
Next...
(PS - Steve Carr also used to (and still does at Newcastle) constantly whinge about how bad others are playing, when he's having an absolute nightmare. He was a great player for a few seasons too.. shame)
5:17 PM, February 27, 2006
Yeah ok Daz you make some good points and there's nothing wrong with talking up the positive side especially given the number of brats who've been on these sort of sites recently. Inspite of my Stalteri/Lee prejudice I do reckon they'd play better if our midfield wasn't so unbalanced all the time. Constant changes, players out of position, not match fit/sharp and no proper left winger. It's also easy to forget that our full backs haven't yet played a full season. they may be our weakest link skill wise but our midfield has been more responsible for our loss of form in the past few weeks in my view. Our current inability to pass or hold on to the ball whether we're under pressure or not is staggering at present and I do think that cheap givaways and breaks have put our full backs under more pressure than they have a right to expect. Also I agree with giving Kelly a go at right back and that when Edman was with us it was at least good to see a left footed player on the pitch but I can do without him myself.
El is actually my nicknam but as we possess an 'El' as you've mentioned in the team, I used it.
7:13 PM, February 27, 2006
This blog appears not 2 have been touched by it's 'editor' for over a week.
Any comments on that folks?
And is that because bum sex with Cheshunt yid has left him too weak to log on??????????????????
8:00 PM, February 27, 2006
Maybe he's gone off to start a 'football' discussion blogsite?
10:12 PM, February 27, 2006
Dazza Jim you talk shit
Stalteri is and has always been crap and Y.P.Lee isn't much better
I read above that you would like to see Naybet get a few games in the run-in ?
WHAT THE FUCK?
Ok, and who exactly are you going top DROP
Ledley or Dawson?
KNOB
1:01 AM, February 28, 2006
and why are you making out everyone was/has been bigging up Stalteri?
Everyone know he's no good, never will be.
He's in the same bracket as Pamarot
= in need of replacing
Lee can stay in the squad as long as it's as back-up
Ziegler, Barny, Routledge & Marney
Hopefully next year.
1:08 AM, February 28, 2006
cheshunt yid is here alive and kicking - not too many football comments on here worth responding to until now. full backs - for me should be kelly at right back ziegler at left back, natural and balanced.
stalteri has given away too many 'points' let alone goals recently.
best full back pairing ive seen personally, has to be perryman and hughton. incidentally, hughton was predominantly right footed even though he played left back !!!
maybe this blog can concentrate on football now ? if you wanna talk knob jokes, am sure you can find an 'adult' site for dickheads ?
COYS
10:06 AM, February 28, 2006
Re: 1.08 anon.
Well you were going great guns on Stall-terry & Lee then you completely blew it mentioning the overtly classy and much sought after - NOT! - Barny & Marney??? No offence to either of these players coz they're probably good lads but you can forget about them. Marney at best is a squad player if that and if Barns was premiership first team material he'd have got a game by now. They are not and never will be top 4 and that's where we're heading.
10:50 AM, February 28, 2006
10:50 AM, February 28
Well if Top 4 is where we are headed then in 2 years time we will need players like Barnard & Marney from our youth team in the squad, because the Uefa ruling will be that you have to have 4 players from your own youth team & 4 players that came through the youth teams of other english clubs. fact
Or maybe you are happy with the Jackson's of this world?
11:38 AM, February 28, 2006
1:01 AM, February 28
I just meant Naybet should be used in some capacity, rather than not at all. If you keep up to date with things, you would know Ledley King has had a groin problem for a few weeks now, and might need the occasional rest - as he has the small matter of a World Cup coming up and won't want to be having an operation just yet.
Taking that into account, I'd prefer to have Naybet step in, rather than Gardner - although he has definitely improved dramatically the last few games to give him credit.
I agree Kelly deserves more of a run in the team, and is slightly quicker. But it wasn't long ago, that virtually every person on this forum was claiming that Stephen Kelly was totally useless and couldn't handle the premiership, etc etc... how bloody quickly has that turned around eh!!??
Phil Ifil must also be gutted, as he had his debut vs Liverpool ages ago, and had a pretty good game for a 17 year old - only to be dropped in favour of Pamarot the game after. Now Pamarot has been judged as being not good enough, and Ifil is still stuck in the reserves behind 2 other players! Maybe after this loan spell he'll get another chance...
On a side issue, would love to see Stuart Pearce get the England Job, with him probably appointing Terry Venables as his assistant, helping him out tactically. Any opinions?
5:31 PM, February 28, 2006
Keep up to date with things?
Like someone mentioned above you talk shit
Most Spurs fans couldn't give a toss if Ledley goes to the World Cup or not.
I'm more interested in him playing for Spurs for the REST of the season and then he can sort out what ever injury problems he has in the summer.
I'm sure everyone would like to see Ledders in a England shirt come the summer, but realistically, what are his chances of gettting a game if everyone is fit
I'd start with Ledley & Terry everytime but it's not like he would be starting for Sven's Engerlund is it?
...and Pearce for England - dreamer
5:59 PM, February 28, 2006
Kelly was slagged off as a left back.
Pearce should be the assistant under Big Sam (totally underrated).
Agree on terry & Ledley first choice but like so many England managers before him sven doesn't seem to choose according to form. Plank.
As for that 4 youth player stuff?? It's news to me. Sounds like another well meaning but silly idea from those dippy sods at FIFA.
Go on the Spurs!
10:40 PM, February 28, 2006
GET A GRIP!
Kelly is young so maybe he will improve in time. Right now he AIN'T GOOD ENOUGH.
Some of you out there are prepared to put up with real third rate players whining on about that they're happy to sit on the bench etc etc.
What a load of shit.
You would watch us slide into the relagation zone waiting for Rasiak to find his form.
Go and support f*cking Norwich!
For Example...
Johnnie Jackson: SHIT.
It's 2006, we are a financially sound big club. SHIT players wearing our shirt is unforgivable.
We are trying to play our way into europe. Anyone who cannot fully embrace that mission really is wasting their own time and mine.
Ping Pong I love you!
11:31 PM, February 28, 2006
'Big Sam'
Stuart Pearce
Both
Fucking morons.
11:32 PM, February 28, 2006
I have to disagree
I think Jackson was awesome for us, shame he isn't getting a look in because i'd have him over Reid and probably put davids on the bench and play him wide instead:
Robinson/Cerny
Kelly
King
Naybet
Stalteri
Jackson
Carrick
Tainio
Routledge/Lennon
Mido
Barnard
and stop slagging me of you bunch of two-bob muppets
11:42 PM, February 28, 2006
I agree Cheshunt, Naybet could bring some much needed experience, Dawson looks a bit shaky at times. And i think it's about time to unleash the Barny, Keane's out of form and Defoe should go in the summer.
What about putting Bunjy in at left back, experience like Naybet and don't forget he scored 4 goals for us last year. Maybe stick Y.P.Lee on the left wing?
Thoughts?
11:46 PM, February 28, 2006
11:46 PM, February 28
I agree with some of your points, but please be yourself, and don't pretend to be me! USE YOUR OWN FECKING NAME!
Bunje would make a good left back - and has done before when called upon. Gardner also has a good left foot - he could play left back quite well if called upon. Also has a bit of pace.
But NO, Defoe should not be sold, or Keane... or Mido... but Barney should definitely get a look in at some point.
Jackson tries hard enough, but isn't fast enough to beat people - and we frankly need that when challenging for European places.
12:42 AM, March 01, 2006
Actually i've changed my mind.
We should defo sell Defoe because, lets face it, he hasn't really done much since his first 6 months and besides, he's not loyal and a bit of a whinger.
Bunjey for a recall
Yeeeeeeeaaah
Maybe we should bring Naybet back in and make him Captain? He could 'steady the ship' and drive us in to champions league footie (which he has bag loads of experience)
12:55 AM, March 01, 2006
Stop using my name you git!
1:03 AM, March 01, 2006
who the fuck is posing as me on here ? gits !!!
10:49 AM, March 01, 2006
Dear 11.31
Ooooh..... you're so authoritative and knowing, would you be my dad? NOT!
Dear 11.32 (same?)
Morons? Is there any chance d'ya think that maybe you're exaggerating just a tad? Maybe you're the moron and they are very useful premiership managers. At least that's the view that reality appears to support.
3:57 PM, March 01, 2006
I have only been bummed twice by Paxmam,Johhnie Jackson and Cheshunt but I love that ying tong ting tong closed down blog SENSATION !
11:02 PM, March 01, 2006
Jesus Christ,
Is it time we had a new blog posted or what!
Roll on Sunday, new posts, different subjects, less bollocks - we can but hope...
Great win for England tonight BTW... Crouch the ex-spur getting his first... didn't to badly at all, showed some really nice touches!
12:33 AM, March 02, 2006
Who the fuck keeps posting on here as me?
SHOW YOUR FACE MOTHERFUCKER
Dazza Jim, shut your noise.
12:37 AM, March 02, 2006
My team for Sunday:
Cerny
(Robbo's too dodgy, Uruguay anyone???!!)
Bunjevcevic - experience
King - solid
Naybet - expertise
Ping Pong
Jackson (let him shine, cheer him on)
Carrick (make him captain)
Brown
Stalteri (Yes, versatility & experience)
Mido
Barnard
Bench:
Gardner (poss world cup place?)
Huddlestone (as above)
Routledge
Reid (see his goal for Eire!!)
Keane
Defoe clearly can't do it anymore, anyone see him v Uruguay, he was more interested in kicking their players because he is a little whiner boy
Davids - too old, current form - crap, now showing signs of what everyone has been saying
Jenas & Tainio - championship level, no more (should of kept davis)
And c'mon guys, lets try and keep this blog sensible, ok.
Jol for England !
1:11 AM, March 02, 2006
Jol for England indeed.
I think Big Martin has been the best manager this year and have seen many posts saying he could be offered the Three Lions job.
I for one would wish him all the best if he did go. And maybe we could do a swap for Erikkson?
I would love that, he won the European Cup with Lazio remember, and could probably attract the likes of Beckham, Owen, Veron to The Lane. Think about it, he has much better pedigree than MJ and we could then push on to the 'next level'.
Thoughts?
1:22 PM, March 02, 2006
Swap Jol for sven? Martin for England?
Tainio & Jenas championship level?
You're all getting v-e-r-y bored.
Or you're goons.
Like the man said; roll on sunday and a new post.
Go on the Spurs!
6:17 PM, March 02, 2006
Yes, these are my opinions, if that happens to bore you then come up with something constructive or go fuck yourself
Show your face, who the fuck is anonymous
8:13 PM, March 02, 2006
totally bored with some git impersonating the real cheshunt yid......roll on an interesting discussion
COYS
9:52 PM, March 02, 2006
I have a team sheet disorder.
I am Rainman.
Robinson
Teasmaid
Hughton
Fondue
Roberts
Galvin
Glen Matlock
Glen Hoddle
DVD
Blender
Naybet
Very Safe driver.
I am a very safe driver.
231 toothpicks in the box. Exactly.
10:09 PM, March 02, 2006
I only buy my pants from k-mart
Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaahhhhh
Lets all post our Squad Lists
Yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaahhhhh
Yeeeeeeeee-Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
11:02 PM, March 02, 2006
Hey motherfucker, show your face
Who the fuck is anonymous
I am Mr.Plain, Man of Rain, the drain bin man, yeeeeeaaah
11:06 PM, March 02, 2006
You're a mess.
Kill Yourself.
Forget the others.
Kill yourself.
12:15 AM, March 03, 2006
I'm cheshunt yid!
2:07 PM, March 03, 2006
No, i'm cheshunt Yid!
2:08 PM, March 03, 2006
NO. I'm Cheshunt YID!
2:08 PM, March 03, 2006
I'M Chesnut Yid!
2:09 PM, March 03, 2006
No i'm cheshunt yid........
...and so is my wife
3:10 PM, March 03, 2006
God almighty what a feckin mess!
Am sooo looking forward to sunday when the new thread starts...
5:15 PM, March 03, 2006
Very Safe Driver.
Definately.
Robinsons Barley Water
Roberts
Cheese Straws
Toaster
Combover
Crooks
Mabbutt
Henry Cooper
Archibald
Terry Waite
Chuck Berry
Definately.
7:02 PM, March 03, 2006
Cum out wiv yer hands up!
I'm a GANGSTAR!
I'm really gay!
I'm a plastic hooligan!
I'm a lonely figure of fun!
Who's anonymous?
I'll do the lot of you!
Then I'll compile another list!
7:07 PM, March 03, 2006
7:02 PM, March 03 -
I think you're just using your old Sensible Soccer custom team or somet.
Throw your amiga away you saddo.... oops I've still got one here too...oh well... lol
11:24 PM, March 03, 2006
Re 12.15 March 03
I’ve decided to take your advice. All these two bob muppets slagging me off, sullying the great name of cheshunt yid on a public blogspot. It gets to me man. I know I put up a tough front but deep down I’m a sensitive soul innit. Here I stand on a tenth-storey spring board looking down at the little antlike people below. Before I jump I’d like to read you my suicide note:
Robinson
Ifil
King
Dawson
Ting Tong
Ping Pong
Giles
Cuthbert
Yid15
PC Cunt
Park Lane Green Beret’s bird’s 18 yo sister
I’m an excellent driver.
GERONIMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
splat
3:54 PM, July 11, 2006
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