Spurs denied.
Thomas Sorensen proved the man of the match as he frustrated the Spurs forward line on around five or six occasions to stop us cruising to victory. On another day we would have won this game 3-0 but it was not to be. Villa came for a point and were quite frankly abysmal past the half way line with zero shots on goal in the whole match. The way the Villa fans celebrated at sneaking a point shows how far we have come in the last 18 months.
The first half was all Spurs but it took a while for us to really get going. Sorensen pulled off the first great save of the day tipping a great lob from Tainio over the bar. Keane was absolutely magnificent first half but Defoe continued to look like he couldn't give a shit.
The second half came and Sorensen pulled off great saves from Carrick and Brown to mention just two and Defoe did improve. I hope this run in the team gets Defoe motivated and a goal against Fulham will boost his confidence which appears to be quite low.
One criticism was our inability to use the width of the pitch. Lennon was on for Jenas and we all know that he is best at running down the wing, scaring the full back to death before whipping in crosses. So, in true Spurs style, we took 15 minutes before Aaron even got a sniff at the ball. When he did he screamed down the wing, beat two men and then crossed to the far post where Mido probably would have been if he was not in Africa. Lennon was they key but we did not provide him with the service.
We have a string of very winnable games coming up and we need to do that to ensure we have points on the board when we approach a tough run in towards the end of the season.
COYS!
posted by Paxton Road at 12:27 PM
40 Comments:
I thought yesterday was one of our best performances this season. Only bad part was not scoring. I think the performance was good because we didn't rely so much on just hoofing it to Mido which has been the case for much of the season. Hopefully Keane and Defoe will show that they can play together and will hopefully will do so well that Mido will have difficulties getting back into the team. Once again Carrick was brilliant yesterday. As much as I love Ledley King, I think Carrick is far more suited to the holding role for England. Ledley should be in defence ahead of that scumbag that left us afew years ago.
2:10 PM, January 22, 2006
Carrick doesn't have enough of the roy keane or Davids about him (yet?)to be world class. Huddlestone might in a few years. Carrick can do the business for us or for smaller England games but world cup? I'm not convinced.
2:28 PM, January 22, 2006
still not quite good enough to take advantage of arse slip ups even at home to a 15th place side.
Work on fellas............
2:31 PM, January 22, 2006
I can not agree that defoe looked like "he didnt give a shit". he was short of sharpness which is to be expected considering he hasnt been playing. This fact also explains his lack of confidence. Motivation is obviously not the problem. Even if you buy the idea that he dosnt give a shit about spurs, he has the incentive of trying to prove himself good enough to go to the world cup. He is also the type of guy who feels he is among the very best and it will be hurting his pride that he is not proving that at present. Keane has done reasonably well in his run in the side but I think defoe is the better striker and is more likely (given a run in the side) to get lots of goals. Keane also frequently disrupts the flow of our game as he does not have a good positional sense and he holds onto the ball for too long.
I have noticed that we seem to be slating defoe for percieved attitude problems, but it was keane who threw a wobbly and had to be fined earlier in the season but we do not question his attitude. Please, lets get behind Defoe, our encouragement may assist in him regaining confidence and form
2:37 PM, January 22, 2006
With regard to Defoe his Dad is going round saying that he is moving to Liverpool at the end of the season for £10M, maybe that suggests his attitude on the pitch. Surprised at the end of the game yesterday to heat how many in Paxton Road were anti Martin Jol calling him a shit manager however if he cannot see that not getting a striker in on loan to replace Mido will cost us Europe full stop I might agree. Message to Paul Robinson the whole ground loves you not just Park Lane!!!
3:53 PM, January 22, 2006
Defoe has no contact with his dad, so the above must br baloney
3:58 PM, January 22, 2006
sorry - must BE baloney
3:59 PM, January 22, 2006
Defoe's dad?.........and where did you get this from exactly, Do you know his dad? I THOUGHT NOT.
And yes the whole ground loves Robbo BUT Robbo loves the Park Lane !!
Ha Ha
COYS !!
6:02 PM, January 22, 2006
....and regards to Paxton Road giving Jol abuse....how fucking dare they, CUNTS.
At least he knows the Park Lane loves him........and Martin Jol luvvvvvvvs us !!
Everyone should get behind the team, the manager and even Rasiak (shyte i know) if he's wearing the spurs shirt
COY 'kin S !
6:05 PM, January 22, 2006
Yesterday was the day I realised how good we are and how good other teams realise we are.
Villa came and set out for a draw, they accepted before the start that they had no chance of winning unless they nicked one and so they just tried to stop us.
That's how lower teams play against top teams, long time since anyone did that against us.
We have got to learn to deal with this now like Man U have over the last ten years, and the arse of course but they seem to have forgotten now.
6:21 PM, January 22, 2006
Whoever says Jol is a shit manager should be banned from WHL. We should all get behind the management and the players. With all of our support we can get into Europe (and stay above the amateurs down the road).
6:22 PM, January 22, 2006
3:53
"....calling him a shit manager however if he cannot see that not getting a striker in on loan to replace Mido will cost us Europe..."
What the FUCK are you talking about? So basically if we don't get a striker in on loan to play in the next 2, possibly 3 games we won't get in europe?
Our next 3 games are:
Fulham 31 Jan
Charlton 5 Feb
Sunderland 12 Feb
The ANC Final is 10 Feb, even if Eygpt win the competition Mido will only miss 3 games MAXIMUM against teams we should beat regardless if we have him or not.
Yes i agree we need to replace Rasiak but your talking like it's a catastrophe.
If we don't buy any players until the summer it wouldn't be the end of the world, we have a big & good enough squad to play the remaining 15 league games and maintain top 6.
The summer is where we will look to strenghten and besides that who is available in Jan? Shall we just go and put in a bid for Ronaldinho, eh? But i guess you will probably slag off Jol if we finish 5th?
What were you predictions for Spurs at the start of the season? WIN the Premiership?
Numpty
And exactly WHAT did Defoe do on the pitch to suggest he has an attitude?
7:59 PM, January 22, 2006
"Surprised at the end of the game yesterday to heat how many in Paxton Road were anti Martin Jol calling him a shit manager however if he cannot see that not getting a striker in on loan to replace Mido will cost us Europe full stop I might agree"
If that's the sort of shite that is spouted in the Paxton end then I, and i'm sure all of us in the Park Lane end (and the rest of WHL)
would request that you stay as quiet for the rest of the season as you have been so far.
I LOVE MARTIN JOL, MARTIN JOL LOVES ME.
8:09 PM, January 22, 2006
Yeah, can't believe anyone is slagging Jol off. Yes he may make the odd strange decision. Even Mourinho makes mistakes. But Jol has been brilliant ever since he came. He has us well organised and play some very good football. We are no where near the finised article, as we still need to work out better ways of breaking teams down but overall I can't criticise Jol one bit. He is a very likeable manager aswell unlike many past managers we have had. We are moving in the right direction very quickly. This is why people start getting critical when one or two results don't go our way. Realistically we will not finish fourth, but if we can finish fifth and get into Europe then it just shows how far we have come in such a short time and then hopeully we can progress even further next season. Jol is a top manager. No one should slag him off.
9:03 PM, January 22, 2006
Sorry did,nt realise that you could,nt post comments that Park Lane did,nt agree with, nice to see that we are all one team though...not. I was proud at Leicester to hear our fans sing we,re the Park Lane we,re the Paxton all in one crowd but obviously most of you on this forum wern,t there. Lets face facts whether you like it or not I was talking to Defoes Dad and that was what he said if its bullshit its bullshit but thats life. Anyone who thinks that Defoe hasn,t got an attitude on the pitch must be a scum fan because he plays for himself not the team. We may have easy games coming up but so was Villa and look what happened there without Mido especially when the scum fucked up in scouseland. Keane and Defoe cannot play together we knew that after Grimbsy and we know it now. Totally agree with the post that said other teams now realise how good we are Villa were more than happy with a draw yesterday. Opinions aside let all four sides get behind the team and roar us to the Champions league because in the pub yesterday there was more noise watching the scum than at the game. We were the only sell out on Saturday and should stick together not slag off other fans around the ground Paxton has a part to play as much as the boys in the Park Lane but how many of you were part of the encoslure!!!
9:09 PM, January 22, 2006
are any of u lot going fulham away???
9:43 PM, January 22, 2006
I am going. Different ends of the ground slagging each other off is pathetic. I don't sit in the Park Lane but that does not make me less of a supporter. I've had a season ticket for years and go to many away games - anyone going to Sunderland? Probably not but I am.
I heard no one slagging Jol off in the Paxton on Saturday. Anymore slagging off of Spurs fans sees your posts deleted.
10:12 PM, January 22, 2006
I hope that the comment about Defoe's dad is wrong. I agree that he has abit of an attitude, although atleast it shows how much he wants to play. I would be more worried if he was happy sitting on the bench picking up a huge wage. I don't want Defoe to leave us. He is still young and has so much potential. I am sur eif he has a run of four or five games in the team that the goals will start flying in again. It would cost millions to find a replacement for him if he left.
10:20 PM, January 22, 2006
Paxton Road don,t throw your toys out the pram just because you did,nt hear it does,nt mean it did,nt happen. Lets revisit at the end of the season when we miss Europe by 3 points like last season and say we should have bought a striker during the window. If you,re a proper fan you have proper views and forums like this should,nt slag them off. Anybody remeber the encloseure or are you all Chelksea rent boys!!
10:43 PM, January 22, 2006
i wasnt at the game yesterday, but cant believe if some idiots are slagging jol.
i agree he can make some strange decisions ( jenas on the right instead of lennon ?? ) but the bloke has brought us on bundles. if you slagged him, shame on you.
thank god santini left - blessing in disguise or what ?!
as for defoes dad, i dont think even defoe knows him ! and thats not meant as a slur on his parenthood. i may be wrong.
time to push on spurs. if king is struggling, give him 3 weeks off, make carrick captain as i think it would bring him on even more, and give huddlestone or davenport a go at centre half. no easy games in the premiership, but isnt that why you have strength in depth ?
4 wins from 4 coming up spurs, definitely achievable.
COYS
10:55 PM, January 22, 2006
We were solid against Villa and the pleasing thing is that we managed to keep them so quiet at our end of the field.Thats a hallmark of a excellent team.
The organization at the back was top class.Dawson, one word... best young centerback in the country.At time he was awesome and he don't look out of place beside the more illustrous King.
Now we need guys like Carrick to shoot well from long range.Gerrard, Lampard(and used to be, scholes) gives thier sides an extra dimension and threat with their shooting because the opposition really do not know whether to back off or hound a player like that when they have the ball.
Villa contained us by putting a bank of 4 defending deep lying because we don't posed a threat from our long range shooting.They know we either try to play round the back or try to thread the ball from deep.We were at time too predictable in attack.
Something Jol has to work on.
1:43 AM, January 23, 2006
i love spurs, but judging by this site the team is supported by some real morons. in fact i'd go further, many of you are simply CUNTS
2:16 AM, January 23, 2006
I don't think our problem is the lack of width but rather the USE of the width.We all know about lennon frightening pace. But far too often after skinning a defender
1) he found no target to hit the ball to
2) or more frequently the quality of the final ball is not there.
You don't hear the gooners talking about lack of height in their forward line, it is how you want to attack.
We know Defoe and Keane do not play well as a pair even though individually they are superb players. I don't how the gooners do it, Henry and co seems to interchange passess with breaktaking ease.But as a Yiddo ,I would wish our two most talented players can find synergy somehow.
COYS !
9:38 AM, January 23, 2006
Rasiak will be returned to the substandard plinth dept at Argos.
Defoe will begin firing again against Wigan..........................
Who will beaten by 11 homosexualists up the road at the gypsy site opposite the burnt out car.
Andy Reid will be loaned to Burger King Streatham.
Beckham will sign for us when he leaves Real with one binding clause in his contract. The shirt sponsor logo will be removed with a picture of him & Victoria.
I know all this and more as I am Martin Jol & I love donuts.
11:51 AM, January 23, 2006
10.43
I can't understand why you say we will miss out on Europe because we are not siging someone to cover Mido's absence for the next 2, possibly 3 games. Utter Shyte
I agree with the post who said against Villa we got the ball on the floor, passed it around and with pace. Nice football, I would rather watch that every week than hoof-ball to Mido.
We WILL be in Europe next season, no doubt, but CL maybe, maybe not?
But please will people STOP saying we NEED to buy a striker in Jan, NO we don't. We just need to replace Rasiak in the summer.
And it was never Paxton vs Park Lane but apparently some of Paxton were slagging off Jol after the Match, regardless of where they sit they are knobs so don't take it personally if you are Paxton unless you slag off Jol then you should be shot.
COYS
12:38 PM, January 23, 2006
We don't need another striker ? Did it occur to you that
1)We lost the FA cup tie when Mido is not avialable
2) We lost to West Brom when Mido is not avialable - 3 points lost
3) We can't score against Villa and the only attacking option left to Jol was Rasiak - 2 points lost
4) We lost to the Grimsby in the league cup tie. when we try to pair up Keane and Defoe.
At this rate, we could keep slipping points and regret the day we did not do something in this Jan window.We have a solid enough defense, we need that extra bite in attack to keep the momentum going.
4:20 AM, January 24, 2006
Ok either I know nothing about football management or Jol doesn't have a shred of common sense. Am I being unfair??
Here we are trying to qualify as high up as we possibly can, we suddenly have a bit of an injury crisis in midfield, and were already suffering from lack of cover on the left hand side. OK.
THEN, we RE-CALL our promising 20-year old Left winger/Left Back Reto Zeigler from Germany where he ISN'T getting any games.... and wait here's the good part... we then proceed to LOAN him out again, to... wait... one of our closest rivals in the table - also chasing a european spot. >>> WHAAAAAT??? HUH?? <<<<
AM I BLOODY MISSING SOMETHING???!!!
He must have had a row with the coaching staff, cos otherwise I can't see how he could not be welcomed back with open arms, and assurances about how much he'll be involved in the remainder of the season....
**RANT OVER, FEEL MUCH BETTER NOW**
(I hope the spurs coaching staff read these forums! Prob not...)
11:53 AM, January 24, 2006
ok transfer window now closed just about, so USE BARNARD from the bench at least, while Mido is away. And, Hello... we have a huge squad so lets actually use it??
Jol says king has a niggling groin problem, so... rather than have him ruled out of the run in from tearing the muscle, why not actually rest him now, so we finish strongly??
Have to say it again... why have we loaned Ziegler to Wigan? So they can win a cup and finish above us in the league? duh?
*BANGS HEAD AND MUTTERS ABUSIVE COMMENTS*
12:01 PM, January 24, 2006
Rasiak in the 15 minutes that he played against Villa was very good. He set up Tainio. He had a chance himself (unfortunately his shot on target was blocked by the defender - not Rasiak's fault). He also won a few headers and overall was a lively and useful addition.
I think Rasiak should be in the starting lineup for the next game or at least he should be getting more time when coming as a substitute.
Moaning about absence of Mido may be premature as Rasiak may still prove to be a worthy replacement.
1:48 PM, January 24, 2006
were being linked wid zebina and de jong do u think we will get ne of these if so are they gona be good aditions to the squad??
4:05 PM, January 24, 2006
was another one at the game on Sat. Actually thought it was a good game and that we played well - apart from the fact we didn't score. Sorensen played a blinder so let's not criticise the team - we created a number of chances and a good proportion were on target. I, too, would rather see Mido back but let's persevere with Keane and Defoe, and concentrate on getting the ball on the deck.
The one comment I agree with is the loaning out of Reto Ziegler. At the one time we are short of a genuine left sided player, we loan our best player on this side out to one of our rivals. Bet paul Jewell can't believe his luck!!!
7:46 PM, January 24, 2006
only one thing to say - BARNARD !!! the bloke cant stop scoring. another 2 tonight against fulham, reid set up 2 as well. he must be at least on the bench against fulham proper ! what more has he got to do ?
COYS
11:08 PM, January 24, 2006
Yes, the reto Zigler loan to Wigan is strange
Something is just not going on well off the field.We miss out on that young dutch central defender (can't recall his name) and this crazy decision.Agreed with an earlier posts, loan a good player to one of our closest rivals, are we mad ?
Comolli, you have been too quiet and you are 6 months into your job.All we have since you here is players being sold off or loan out.We miss out on Walcott as well, so call you pet project.Can you give us something to cheer about ?
2:25 AM, January 25, 2006
Zubina and De Jong...played in CL matches and consistently linked to big 4 too..Should be good mate.
Especially De Jong but prefer a star name now....someone like Robben and Torres.Thats a move upwards.
7:27 AM, January 25, 2006
El Hamdaoui and Barnard, both fit and playing for reserves. Barnard 11 goals in 6 matches according to official spurs site... doesn't he deserve a start??!!!
Also Bunjevcevic and Jackson playing well for reserves... with the Zeigler loan confusion fresh in the mind, and with us being short of left-sided players can't we use these 2... at least on the bench and give Routledge a rare start against fulham??
Bunje plays well at left back... last time he played for us there we thrashed Oldham and he scored one too.
Yes even after all the crap decisions, we have a very strong squad, I think we should use it.
5:35 PM, January 25, 2006
can you hear the northbank sing Ho o Ho o can you hear the northbank sing Ho o Ho o can you hear the northbank sing campbell's finished Ledley's King Ho o Ho o Ho o Ho o ...........
12:50 AM, January 26, 2006
What is wrong with you people?
Rasiak is absolutely out of his depth. Don't sell him, sellotape him to a bottle of shampoo and let Superdrug give him away. . No apologies, he's shit. Derby, Pooland and THAT hat-trick in the reserves..... Forgedda about it. Rubbish is rubbish and the boy is rubbish.
AND for any of you too stupid to remember that rain is wet and it's broken glass that tastes funny... leave Jol alone. He is not a saviour, just a grade A football manager and grade A man manager.
There is at least one really cool signing coming before the close of business and whilst it isn't Pele's mum it will be nice so get behind the team, get behind the board, and get behind each other because we're going on and on and on and into Europe.
We play Tottenham Hotspur football here, don't you forget that.
West Stand Voice
12:53 AM, January 26, 2006
Rasiak look a genuine guy who try his best... but alas that just not good enough.
He seems to have come from a era of the distant past.That hair ,the pace(or lack of it) and he reminded me of our players in the 80's, a certain Chris Waddle.
There are seeds of doubt in me about Jol's judgement, for Rasiak is Jol's choice and not Arnesan.
1:54 AM, January 26, 2006
So the de Jong deal stalled due to the 21 year old tart wanting to be our highest paid player? If it's true, is he fucking sure! Hamburg can have him.
There's a story out there (hope it's waffle) that Zeigler 'might' wan't to turn his loan to wigan into a permanent contract if things go well for him. What's going on with the boy? Anyone out there actually know?
We're supposedly after Zebina (spelling?) who is a right back or centre back. Last time I looked it was a left back or left winger we needed. Can anyone explain our current purchasing policy?
I still have an implicit trust in the Levy Jol Comolli partnership and up until now I feel I've understood what's been going on at Spurs but my perceptive grip on all things Tottenham seems to be loosening.
Can somebody help?
6:08 PM, January 27, 2006
BARNARD BARNARD BARNARD...ROUTLEDGE ROUTLEDGE ROUTLEDGE...LENNON LENNON LENNON...REID, GOALS GOALS GOALS.
Get Dean Marney back too, I am increasingly frustrated at the coaching staff's insistance on Loaning out or selling our best homegrown and/or young talent. It's been happening since Venables, Clemence and Livermore left the place, and has only just started to improve under Jol. Remember Nick Barmby, Darren Caskey, Jeff Minton, Neale Fenn, Danny Hill, Andy Turner, Luke Young, Matt Etherington, Bobby Zamora, etc etc... not to mention the over 25 club who did nothing wrong and yet got the boot - like Allan Neilsen who scored the winner in our last big cup final, then was promptly sold by George Graham for being far too consistent... oh dear.
Now its Barnard, Ziegler, Ifil, Marney... If the youth team and reserves never get a shot in the first team, what IS the point in having the structure in place? Then your rivals snap them up, say ta very much and you're back to square one... nice one.
Besides that lot, I refer the honourable gentelmen, to the response I gave some time ago - we have a strong squad. Get it sorted Martin!
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