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Monday, January 30, 2006

Routledge off plus others?

Wayne Routledge has joined Portsmouth on loan until the end of the season. Do not be surprised if this turns into a permanent deal come June time as Lennon has shown that he will be a far greater player in years to come. The fact that Palace fans were not that fused when he left said a lot at the time. He had a good pre-season and then an unfortunate injury but his come back has not exactly set the world on fire and clearly Jol rates Lennon over him to allow him a half season loan.

A good source on From the Lane is also backing up stories on Sky Sports from yesterday that Michael Brown is definitely off to Fulham but won't be eligible to play against us tomorrow. I think that we are now moving a step too far in going from having hundreds of midfield players to only just enough cover. With Tainio and Davids most likely out injured it leaves Carrick and Jenas in the middle with Lennon right and either Reid or Jackson left. The left side is just crap and needs sorting asap but it looks like we have missed the chance this window.

Another rumor doing the rounds on FTL is that Danny Murphy could be on his way over from Charlton. Why? Why? Why?!??!! The short arsed fool made us look stupid once and is lucky to get a game over at Charlton so why do we want him. Leave him to rot there.



Anonymous Anonymous said...

what the f**k is going on were now seriously short in midfield and attack our champions leage push is in real jeapoardy we need to sign someone but please no crap mr jol...

7:37 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Jeff said...

at least M.J's starting to sift the shit from the squad.But we need new blood up front,AND SOON!!!!

7:44 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I must admit i'm gutted, i for one would like to have seen routledge given a chance in the next few games. Levy and Comoli better have at least 1 top class signing in place before tommorrow nights dedline or i'm sure most spurs fans will be furious.

1 of my mates who is a pompey fan and gets inside info off the physio down there told me than andy reid is also off to them tommorrow, on load with a view to a permanent transfer in the summer, this goes for Routledge too.

I would like to see a top class striker and a decent (better than reid) left winger sign on the dotted line before midnight tommorrow, my choice (realisticly) would be this feyeenoord egyptian bloke Hossam Ghaly and somebody like benni McCarthy or Boa Morte + money for brown.

Having said all this, realisticly i don't think anyone will be arriving tommorrow and selling the mendes, brown & davis will prove to be mistakes (at least 1 of them should have been kept), i really hope i'm proved wrong!


7:48 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

i can't believe we haven't signed anyone YET!!!!!
Everyone else us has signed players yet we have only sold them!
Surely we must sign some-one tomorrow

7:51 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

i think people fill to realise that we know have, carrick, jenas, davids, tanio, lennon, reid, brown and huddlestone for 4 midfield positions, that is fine, all the players who have left were playing for the reserves and the first team experience for routledge and Ziegler will be worthwhile, plus if injuries got bad we can simply recall them!!!

7:52 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

i have lost all faith in Camoli! he has done bugger all since arriving and all our transfers seem to be falling through!

7:56 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is going on i read somewhere that Mr Levy aint even in the country so how on earth are we gonna make any signings in this window.
He seems to play that trick every f***in january

8:03 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

be prepared for another late RASIAK, he is dogshit, i'm with the few yids that have been saying give him and andy reid a chance but to perfectly honest the pair couldn't hit a cows ass with a shovel!

8:04 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sadly, we have purchased what I call 'Trial and error players'. I have said it all along spurs have wasted so much money on mediocre players its a Joke.I always believe if these players cant get into the Top sides then we shouldn't buy then. If we are thinking bid then buy big.We have spent over 70 million in the past 5 yrs on quantity. If the little quality we have are injured, we tend to struggle.I would rather spend big on decent players and then search around for frees and cheapos. After all most of our best players this season Carrick,Teanio,Stalteri,Davids have cost us next to nothing..

Its about time we think BIG!!!!

8:09 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope you don't mean BIG as in Andy Reid lol.

8:16 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Jeff said...

I think the smaller squad will benefit us in the long run,there's less temptation to rotate the team.Providing we don't get a geordie like injury crisis I can see us benefiting from a good settled team.

8:19 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

we need a real quality left winger sell fat boy, mido will be back soon job done, 10 mill should cover it money from players sold. levy out of the country on buisness wrapping up the final pieces of some transfer i hope coys

8:20 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Huddelestone's back so that takes care of letting Brown go. The really puzzling thing is letting Ziegler go out on loan again when there is nobody sufficient to play on the left. Routledge's situation is looking ominously like that which befell Davis - long term injury and then finding you're way behind in the queue for a squad place due to other players emerging.

8:48 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...


8:53 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm very unhappy at thetreatment of some of our players. The signings of Davis and Routledge are shocking episodes. How poor must our scouting and planning process? We sign them, hardly play them and shuffle them off within a year! Its absolutely disgraceful. No wonder noone will sign in future.

8:54 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

why have we let zeigler go off on loan - not only are we short of left sided players (including left back) we let him go to one of our rivals for a european position - it dosent make any sense to me

8:55 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have faith in jol. he's a very wise and shrewd man. I think he's got something up his sleeve. We will see tomorrow. Not sure if routledge will make a permanent move yet would he ? Don't forget reto zeigler. he can play left mid aswell as left back and he should be in the first team next season. He's shit hot. COME ON YOU SPURS !

9:06 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don,t think there are any big name players available and possibly why we are having problems making signings.
We will probably end up with jimmy floyd hasselbank.

9:08 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wigan, a rival for a European place? You're having a laugh aintcha?

9:11 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

we need someone up front RASIAK just will not cut it.
By not getting anyone in it is tempting it all to go tits up in the long run

9:11 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

all fulham fans stink of wee and poo. Their women are frighteningly ugly and they would give a pitbull chewing on a wasp a the fright of his life.......

9:18 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The bloke saying that Teddy ,Gus and Darren Anderton are on their way back is a right joke ! He should get his facts right !!! The word on the Lane is Gary Docherty is on his way back ! Now that is a fact !!!

9:39 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ginger Pele heads back to the lane - You heard it here first !!

9:42 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don#t see why anyone is worrying about the backup players leaving when haven't played the all season bar those few sub appearances.
They are gone, there is money in the bank and the wages we are not paying them goes into the bank to afford big money signings in the the summer.
We have our Shirt and logo sponsorship money in the summer aswell as the usual 10m spenditure which could all add up to a big fat 30m or more payout depending on which Cup in Europe we are going for!

9:53 PM, January 30, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

the players we have let go hardly if ever played for us this season, yet everyones acting liek they were our top players liek robbo, king, dawson, and davids.

get a grip people, we had the biggest squad about, of course jol would trim some players down, if we dont sign anyone(yet it will be a dissapointment) but not the nd of the world, the players we have are still good enough to finish high enough for europe!

11:43 PM, January 30, 2006

Blogger Fuzzo Yiddo said...

The rumour mill is really hotting up now. Fernando Torres is now apparently our top target for tomorrow! 20million+ claims The Independant! Utter bullcrap if you ask me. We cant even keep our younger players with bags of potential happy. Off goes Routledge, off goes Brown, off goes Reid, off goes Kelly etc etc. We should have waited to offload all these players. Then we can do a proper reshuffle.

I'm actually gutted over Routledge. I was hoping all day that it wouldnt happen. I think I'd even be disappointed to see Brown go cos despite all the stick he has got, he works his arse off for us. We are handing Arsenal that last CL spot with all this naff activity now. We have left it all too late again and when we cant sign Ghaly due to work permit problems and fitness issues, we will probably panic buy again. We're slowly losing Defoe, Routledge, Kelly and Huddlestone and I'm really not happy about the way we are treating them.

Potential IN's:

Ghaly - would be ok, but why do we need another CM that will just be benched?
Torres - if any inch of this story was true it would be excellent, but this is the Baptista saga all over again. We're not big enough and I'd never expect us to bid over £10m, even for Kuyt.
Murphy - please slap whoever keeps persisting with this waste of space!

Outs/Potential Outs:

Routledge - bad move! Should be playing for us.
Brown - the best back-up we have.
Reid - Better plan to sell in summer?
Davis - I agree with this transfer.
P.Mendes - Should of stayed with us and played.
Pamarot - Good sale!
Kelly - Should keep him!
Defoe - If he goes, we're moving backwards.

My Ideal IN's:

Ribery - this would be the buy of the year!
Kuyt - We need another tall man.
Torres - Could be fun. Why not! This aint gunna happen!
Edman - Get him back!

1:34 AM, January 31, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't understand all this moaning that we have'nt signed anyone and that we should'nt let this player or that player go. Typical Tottenham fan mentality I suppose (yes, i am one aswell).. Davis was good when he came, we all had high hopes for him, but sometime things just don't work out - I think the portsmouth transfers were sound business, 7 mln quid for 3 squad players ! As for Routledge.. i had my reservations when he came. He's one of those that could be really good, but he's not quite ready yet, and his distribution and crossing is really hit and miss.
I do think its a shame about Brown cos he really gives his all every time he plays, but lets face it, he's not the best....might have fitted in well in the "diamond" with samways and howells!!
The point is, who gives a monkeys who leaves and who comes in as long as we maintain our league position and get into europe - even the uefa cup would be a big improvement and could be considered a succesful season.
Admittedly, a few big money signings would be exciting, but lets just back the boys that are currently doing a very good job and stop whining about who we've not signed (mostly tabloid b0llox anyway).

8:48 AM, January 31, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't/can't/won't believe that Jol, commoli, levy would sanction the release of these players without having some ready to come in.
Were currently in 4th and really need to push on to aim to secure that place, but with others around strengthening it seems that it's gonna be difficult. However the problem with Jan transfers are that the players who we really want are not gonna be released by their clubs halfway thru a season.
The bid for Torres shows intent, I doubt it'll happen now, but a push to secure 4th place would IMO make it happen in the summer.
Ghaly I know nothing about but it appears that he is injured atm. Murphy could be a decent back up in the run in but no more than that.

9:03 AM, January 31, 2006

Anonymous Dazza jim said...

I agree with FUZZO YIDDO on 90% of the points. Good post!

Mendes had quality, worked hard and had a fairly good attitude (apart from the whinge factor) as well as 'champions' league experience. If we'd had some common sense, we might have been able to accommodate him in the right midfield slot, or put Carrick over there in a kind of Beckham role - maybe switching them over occasionally? Pamarot would have made a good Centre back, but is a very average right back - would have provided decent cover though.

Ok, Lee Barnard has now scored 14 in 8 reserve games (17 in total this season) and Mounir El Hamdaoui is fit and playing well again - GET THEM IN THE SQUAD, why not?? Barney is hot at the moment!

I was also annoyed at the Zeigler and Routledge situations, when we desperately need cover on the wings. But you need players on board who aren't going to get impatient so early. Keane got frustrated, but never asked for a transfer - and now Defoe is also waiting for his chance again.
Jol knows the type of character he wants on board I think, and that's why he's given them an opportunity to go out on loan when they ask for it. IF they are worth holding onto, they will come straight back wanting to prove themselves again - this time with more realistic expectations of how many starts they will get!!

And everybody stop PANICKING about the window, lets bring some youth through NOW. That way when the summer comes we can concentrate on 1 or 2 huge signings rather than 5 or 6 average players with 'potential' who will whinge too much and get loaned out... notice the pattern developing??

Come On Yooou Spurs...

11:13 AM, January 31, 2006

Blogger Fuzzo Yiddo said...

I was all a bit wound up last night over Routledge. I think we really should have him at our club for the rest of the season. All it takes is Lennon and Jenas to pick up injuries and we're yet stuck for any wide support on the right. I know its a typical Spurs fan that moans about these sorts of things but I'm really not confident the right decisions have been made so far. I do agree that 7mill is good for those 3 players that went to Pompey and that was canny transfer activity. I do not think Brown and Routledge going (if Brown does) is a good move. However, I do think if Murphy joins us, Brown should be able to go, but then I still think Brown would play better for us than Murphy would. I've heard little about Ghaly but I still dont understand why we are signing central midfielders and not going all out to sign Ribery. Torres wont happen. I understand why Spurs keep these sort of offers quiet cos they know that we always fail in these big money offers. Think about our club record transfer! 11mill for Rebrov! Maybe we should just stick to little good buys like Defoe and Mido cos we arent big enough to make stupid large bids for players that are wanted by Juve etc. I would like to see at least 2 signings today. If we dont make any, I'll start worrying about this 4th spot we're holding on to. Not because I dont believe in our current squad, but because I know how injury prone spurs players are when we most need them.

11:14 AM, January 31, 2006

Blogger Fuzzo Yiddo said...

Great post Dazza jim. I agree. I completely forgot about how annoyed I was about Zeigler too. Over the course of a day I was happy we had recalled him, laughing over rumours of him going straight back out on loan to Wigan, then pissed off that he did go out on loan again. We needed him on the left badly! But about the youth players... i agree very much!

Lee Barnard deserves a start, or at least a sub spot!

Huddlestone should start for Davids if he is injured tonight. Give him a game cos he could be brilliant for us! If we are so intent on playing long ball games, Huddlestone is one of the best long ball passers around!

And most importantly: tonight we need to play Defoe into the game! He isnt Mido, he cant head the ball or hold it up as well as Mido. We all know Defoe scores goal after goal when he is played into space an allowed to run at goal. We alienated him against Villa and it was shocking that our Midfield has an inability to play anything else other than a long ball game at the moment.

Sorry I'm having a rant, I'm not understanding some of the things MJ is doing at the moment. I still have faith in the big cuddledutchman though, but lets see what he changes for tonight.

11:25 AM, January 31, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why let Davis go, and then bring in Murphy? Davis is twice the player Murphy is, and younger. Why treat Routledge this way, play him in unfamiliar positions and take him off after coming on? And don't let me get started on Rasiak. Better than Kanoute? I think we are seriously seeing the post-Arnesen era here, we have a worse squad now than when he left, and I fear it'll get even worse.

12:15 PM, January 31, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most the people r morons on this post ur supposed to support ur club so do it..wen jol gets it right and we become a big club again most of u will be like " i told u so" or "i always sed he knows what hes doing" just think of things logically were a big club and we wudnt get bullied into selling or loaning players that we need granted u can be upset about some of them if u believe they could do a job but leave big mj to do his job i think a 20mil bid for torres is all the ambition you need to see that spurs r goin places! come on the yids!

1:42 PM, January 31, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

we have bought gahly who has seen that only fools and horses episode gali lol

2:04 PM, January 31, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

you lot need to spell

3:20 PM, January 31, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

tbf, Murphy is a cunt and no mistake but he is creative and would play well in a team with Defoe.

I couldn't give a fuck about Routledge leaving really when Arron Lennon's over-taked SWP as the most exciting wide player in the country. Let's give Reidy a chance to play tongiht to. We all know he CAN be a good player.

Our real problem is up front where JD looks to be lacking confidence and RK is pining for Mido's return. Rasiak of course isn't fit to play for my football club ever again.

Torres...ha ha if.....

3:41 PM, January 31, 2006

Anonymous dazza jim said...

Nice one Fuzzo Yiddo, Huddlestone hasn't even had an appearance as a sub yet... if you never try them out you never know if they're good enough!
Hell he could even operate ALONGSIDE Davids, when we're playing away from home and looking to keep it tight!

I do believe in Jol's ability to judge players though, and if Zeigler and Routledge were kicking their toys out of the pram for being left out in favour of Lennon - then they deserve to be loaned out. You can't have bad vibes in the dressing room, it affects the performances.

Also I feel Bunjevcevic is being wasted. Ok he's awful at Centre half... but he's proven himself to be more than useful at left back or in a holding midfield role - why are we still paying him an international players wages if we aren't even going to name him in the squads??

Hello, left back IS a problem position for us at the moment... Bunje, help us out?

PS - why the hell DID we sell Edman? Did he actually have a BAD game for us???

We need to get Naybet back from Africa ASAP too, now Morrocco are out... back in the squad and playing, in case King needs to rest his groin problem.

4:23 PM, January 31, 2006

Blogger EL said...

Ok, here's what I think:

1. Jol, Comolli & Levy know what they're doing.

2. Most of you lot don't know what you're talking about.

4:41 PM, January 31, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, it's obvious we have a few small glitches with the squad, but i'm confident we will have them all sorted!
One thing i would agree with is that, El Ham, and Barney should get there chance, i surely can't see why they're not getting it, they seem to have the passion to play for the club, so give them a run!
I know we have a gap on the left, so jol might as well play reidy, he should be able to fill it!

4:51 PM, January 31, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Murphy might not be the greatest player ever, but he has experience - and i've heard we're swapping him for Gardner!? (makes me happy!)

we signed ghaly(or whatever). He is injured.. - does anyone know whats wrong with him, and how long out?

Torres - YES PLEASE! (i can dream, can't i?)

5:00 PM, January 31, 2006

Blogger EL said...

Look surely if El Ham & Barn are not being given a chance it's because they're not good enough. Unless you genuinely believe Jol doesn't know what he's doing or there's some sort of conspiracy going on.

5:01 PM, January 31, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

give rasiack a break the geez aint had a proper chance he did well when he came on against villa - when he was on we created some good chances. fed up with fans booing players . some players need time to settle for all you know he could be scoring goals after few games - impatient fans get on my tits

6:53 PM, January 31, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

i hope we get Matt Taylor before the window closes
I have always rated him and i also know he is a spurs fan so should give 100%

7:48 PM, January 31, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...


Does that mean then that you think Defoe is not 'good enough' and Rasiak is a better player than him as Jol prefers to play him instead?

Or does Jol not know what he's doing there?

12:26 PM, February 01, 2006

Anonymous dazza jim said...

EL -

1. Yes a lot of people appear to not know what they're talking about.

2. This is a forum for expressing whatever views you like.

3. Barnard does deserve a chance as he's now scored 17 for the reserves which is apparently a club record at reserve level. So essentially he's better than any other striker we've thrown in from the reserves....soooo what have we got to lose in effect??

Is he less deserving of a place on the bench than Neale Fenn, Rory Allen or the great Jamie Slabber?? Come on!

6:32 PM, February 01, 2006

Anonymous dazza jim said...

Actually Neale Fenn never really had a proper chance, thinking back.. but he had a few games - which is more than Barney can say thus far...

6:34 PM, February 01, 2006

Blogger EL said...

So if you think Barny deserves a go why hasn't Jol given him a chance? Is Jol missing a trick which you've spotted?

10:51 PM, February 01, 2006

Blogger Brian Timlin said...

Here's my two penny: Davis, Mendes and Pamarot leaving was good business and the squad needed to be trimmed.
Next, these loan moves were slightly strange given our lack of cover on the wings and full-back. But you've got to trust he big man. And with him favouring a diamond; we have cover in midfield.
At full-back we also have Kelly and Bunjy as cover. So I think we are actually okay and it will give the youngsters games which can only benefit them in the long run.

The only thing I am slightly disappointed about is that we didn't make any big signings. Sure Murphy for Brown is a good swap, in my view, but what about buying somebody to really help the push to get the champions league spot? I guess in January it isn't easy to buy big.
Still, I think we have a great chance of fourth place.

I think some people should give the Jolster a break and also give Commeli time. The buying of young talent was done before he came. His task now is a different one. I'm sure he will do well.

As for the big pole, he had a good debut and circumstance meant he was never going to get a run. He came with a good rep. I don't know, I only saw his debut and but in his other two starts I'm told he was pathologically shit. Anyway, it was right to let him go. He didn't take his chance when he got it. Hopefully we can grab fourth place and it will give us a real springboard to fill the team with two big names in the summer. I would target the left wing, right back (Stalteri is good but we could do better)and one mega striker who can play as a target man.
You never know if Reid loses weight we might gain a player too. He IS a real talent. If he continues to eat however he should only be used centrally in a three or at the head of a diamond. And he may not be good enough to be afforded that luxury.

I think it all bodes well, we have a young talented squad and we are playing winning football, in every sense of the word. As it should be (take note Chelsea).

3:34 AM, February 16, 2006


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